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Dear America, you are under attack from your own government.

iyn 2y ago
"I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic" [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_Allegiance_%28United_States%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_Allegiance_%28United_S...
jfengel 2y ago
Yes, we know. Even worse: it is doing so to the resounding cheers of a large fraction of our fellow citizens.
- sega_sai 2y ago
  To be honest I am not sure I am seeing any reaction from the other fraction either. Yes I do read articles in NYT, and page linked above, but is there any opposition? protests about what is going on, about putting puppets on top of agencies, siding with Russia, dismantling the government? It seems to me the strategy for the other fraction is to maybe hope for the best and maybe wait for the next election.
  - sitkack 2y ago
    This needs to be stopped now, no one is waiting.
    - account42 2y ago
      Why? This is what the American people voted for. And it's not any more radical than what the otherside has been doing the past four years.
  - Tadpole9181 2y ago
    EDIT: Going to remove these comments and step away, this week really has me heated and it's not fair to my conversational partners here.
    - mxfh 2y ago
      Inform the opinions of the constituencies of member of congress to show them where there local support is. Try to force special elections. Flipping the house seems doable. The momentum seems there.
      - deleted 2y ago
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  - aeth0s 2y ago
    Yes, there are protests all over the US! Check out https://www.fiftyfifty.one/ https://www.fiftyfifty.one/ I'm deeply impressed by the turnout in every state. It seems media coverage has been lagging in major outlets. There's also a subreddit https://www.reddit.com/r/50501/ https://www.reddit.com/r/50501/ and Discord. Thanks for helping. (:
brink 2y ago
Worry about your own country, this is our republic. Most of us voted for exactly this, not the hyper-intellectual multi-national HN crowd. Yes it's ugly, but we knew it would be going in. There is no pretty way to go about the reform we're after. We'll decide for ourselves whether we're under attack or not. I voted for this admin, and while not perfect, I think it's much better than what we had.
- wat10000 2y ago
  The people were split almost evenly. That should not translate into the side that squeaked out a win being able to take a wrecking ball to everything.
  - account42 2y ago
    Was this also your response to the forced social reforms including government-mandated racism and sexism pushed by the previous administration?
    - wat10000 2y ago
      I have no idea what you’re talking about.
- sitkack 2y ago
  We collectively are under attack, whether you voted for this administration doesn't make you the decider of that. We have an unconstitutional tyrant and petulant billionaire side kick running around like bulls in a china shop destroying our collective value. This isn't a Democrat or Republican issue, this is a constitutional issue.
- goatlover 2y ago
  Trump admin is acting as an illegitimate government by ignoring the Constitution and siding with Putin of all people. The results of the election are being rendered irrelevant.
- NotMichaelBay 2y ago

iyn 2y ago

"I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic" [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_Allegiance_%28United_States%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_Allegiance_%28United_S...

jfengel 2y ago

Yes, we know. Even worse: it is doing so to the resounding cheers of a large fraction of our fellow citizens.

sega_sai 2y ago
To be honest I am not sure I am seeing any reaction from the other fraction either. Yes I do read articles in NYT, and page linked above, but is there any opposition? protests about what is going on, about putting puppets on top of agencies, siding with Russia, dismantling the government? It seems to me the strategy for the other fraction is to maybe hope for the best and maybe wait for the next election.
- sitkack 2y ago
  This needs to be stopped now, no one is waiting.
  - account42 2y ago
    Why? This is what the American people voted for. And it's not any more radical than what the otherside has been doing the past four years.
- Tadpole9181 2y ago
  EDIT: Going to remove these comments and step away, this week really has me heated and it's not fair to my conversational partners here.
  - mxfh 2y ago
    Inform the opinions of the constituencies of member of congress to show them where there local support is. Try to force special elections. Flipping the house seems doable. The momentum seems there.
    - deleted 2y ago
      [deleted]
- aeth0s 2y ago
  Yes, there are protests all over the US! Check out https://www.fiftyfifty.one/ https://www.fiftyfifty.one/ I'm deeply impressed by the turnout in every state. It seems media coverage has been lagging in major outlets. There's also a subreddit https://www.reddit.com/r/50501/ https://www.reddit.com/r/50501/ and Discord. Thanks for helping. (:

brink 2y ago

Worry about your own country, this is our republic. Most of us voted for exactly this, not the hyper-intellectual multi-national HN crowd. Yes it's ugly, but we knew it would be going in. There is no pretty way to go about the reform we're after. We'll decide for ourselves whether we're under attack or not. I voted for this admin, and while not perfect, I think it's much better than what we had.

wat10000 2y ago
The people were split almost evenly. That should not translate into the side that squeaked out a win being able to take a wrecking ball to everything.
- account42 2y ago
  Was this also your response to the forced social reforms including government-mandated racism and sexism pushed by the previous administration?
  - wat10000 2y ago
    I have no idea what you’re talking about.
sitkack 2y ago
We collectively are under attack, whether you voted for this administration doesn't make you the decider of that. We have an unconstitutional tyrant and petulant billionaire side kick running around like bulls in a china shop destroying our collective value. This isn't a Democrat or Republican issue, this is a constitutional issue.
goatlover 2y ago
Trump admin is acting as an illegitimate government by ignoring the Constitution and siding with Putin of all people. The results of the election are being rendered irrelevant.
NotMichaelBay 2y ago