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Would it have been better if Firefox/Mozilla went under as a result of never compromising on their principles for income 5 years ago, as opposed to continuing t

Would it have been better if Firefox/Mozilla went under as a result of never compromising on their principles for income 5 years ago, as opposed to continuing to exist in this less than optimal form today? If the business incompetence of where to put all the existing money were resolved. I feel like the people who understand Mozilla's true principles have long since moved on by this point, and the crowd of those unaware still use Firefox as a daily driver, for better or worse. That crowd might have just moved to Chrome without Firefox as an option anymore. Although, as I understand it Firefox and Chrome will be closer to each other in terms of 3rd-party data selling from now on with this ToS change.

Idesmi 2y ago
> the people who understand Mozilla's true principles have long since moved on by this point Where to?
- dharmab 2y ago
  I'm really liking Orion browser, unfortunately it doesn't support Windows or Linux yet
yencabulator 2y ago
Mozilla had $1,006,854,000 invested at end of 2023. Drawing 5% of that annually for developer salaries would pay a lot of Firefox developer salaries, even with no incoming cash whatsoever. I'd like to believe a world exists between "Firefox is a volunteer-only effort" and "Mozilla CEO is yet another sociopath robber baron". https://assets.mozilla.net/annualreport/2024/mozilla-fdn-2023-fs-final-short-1209.pdf https://assets.mozilla.net/annualreport/2024/mozilla-fdn-202...
isaacremuant 2y ago
Mozilla died as a principled company the day they fired Brendan Eich because he had once donated to a cause they didn't agree with. It became all about the authoritarianism of wokeness. They wasted so much money in ridiculous tangents and became extremely partisan and censorious. It's still the best browser due to extensions and customization but it's sad to see these news making it not that better than chrome when it comes to privacy.
account42 2y ago
> Would it have been better if Mozilla went under Absolutely. That would have allowed Firefox to fall to better stewardship.

Idesmi 2y ago

> the people who understand Mozilla's true principles have long since moved on by this point Where to?

dharmab 2y ago
I'm really liking Orion browser, unfortunately it doesn't support Windows or Linux yet

yencabulator 2y ago

Mozilla had $1,006,854,000 invested at end of 2023. Drawing 5% of that annually for developer salaries would pay a lot of Firefox developer salaries, even with no incoming cash whatsoever. I'd like to believe a world exists between "Firefox is a volunteer-only effort" and "Mozilla CEO is yet another sociopath robber baron". https://assets.mozilla.net/annualreport/2024/mozilla-fdn-2023-fs-final-short-1209.pdf https://assets.mozilla.net/annualreport/2024/mozilla-fdn-202...

isaacremuant 2y ago

Mozilla died as a principled company the day they fired Brendan Eich because he had once donated to a cause they didn't agree with. It became all about the authoritarianism of wokeness. They wasted so much money in ridiculous tangents and became extremely partisan and censorious. It's still the best browser due to extensions and customization but it's sad to see these news making it not that better than chrome when it comes to privacy.

account42 2y ago

> Would it have been better if Mozilla went under Absolutely. That would have allowed Firefox to fall to better stewardship.