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It is part of UAC, along with Ilyushin and Yakovlev.
by D_Alex 2y ago
It is part of UAC, along with Ilyushin and Yakovlev.
- drysine 2y agoStill not in the list)
- D_Alex 2y agoYes, and they are ahead of COMAC in the number of aircraft produced. It will be interesting to see if UAC emerges as a serious competitor to Boeing and Airbus (and COMAC) in the near future.
- drysine 2y agoYeah, waiting to see if the current iteration of PD-14 engine[0] is finally up to the task. Two years ago UAC tested them and found to be in the need of improvement. [0] https://rostec.ru/media/news/rostekh-peredal-partiyu-seriynykh-aviadvigateley-pd-14-dlya-ms-21/ https://rostec.ru/media/news/rostekh-peredal-partiyu-seriyny...
- D_Alex 2y agoYep... it is hard to build a competitive jet engine. If the Russians manage to do this, it would be another example of the stupidity of the sanctions. I bet COMAC is cheering them on too.
- notahacker 2y agoSeems unlikely. They had their window of opportunity when they had an active Western marketing arm, Russia wasn't a sanctioned nation, COMAC was barely getting started and the early reports of the Superjet were quite positive. Suffice to say the airlines that passed on the opportunity aren't regretting it and the couple that bought them did regret it.
- D_Alex 2y agoI disagree with you about the effect of sanctions. Their result was that airliners became a strategic priority rather than something Russia was happy to buy overseas forever. Furthermore, the sanctions demonstrated that there is sovereign risk associated with purchasing Western airliners. Finally, IIRC the airline's regrets were largely related to the poor early reliability of the French-built parts, specifically combustors, for the Superjet engines. It remains to be seen how the new Russian engines will perform.
- notahacker 2y agoDemand for Russian built airlines in Russia /= them being competitive with Boeing and Airbus. The USSR built airliners as a strategic priority for the domestic market for decades: their track record of being terrible was one of the reasons behind scepticism of the Superjet And airlines in most countries have far more to worry about buying aircraft whose maintenance depends on a faraway pariah state and that are not certified in Europe than they do about US sanctions targeting them. And even if they do, still not necessarily more difficult to circumvent the sanctions (as Mahan Air did with wet leased 747s) and access a worldwide parts supply and MRO market than rely on being able to maintain and sell on your Russian aircraft at reasonable price and timeliness... It would also be surprising if the new Russian engines were competitive on performance with new Western engines, and likewise with other components they've had to switch to domestic manufacture for.
- drysine 2y ago>faraway pariah state By that you mean a state sanctioned by the US and the EU, which together comprise about 10% of the world's population.
- notahacker 2y agoAnd most of the companies that'll get parts shipped to you and do your maintenance, especially when you consider getting UAC MRO certifications isn't exactly an exciting opportunity for companies from China, the Middle East or Latin America either. And doing business with Russian aerospace companies was a PITA when you had access to easy international payments and didn't have a risk of becoming a sanctioned company yourself