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Can we really put Orban in the category of "European leaders"? Seems more like "Putin followers"

• layer8 2y ago
  As the leader of a EU country, he can veto top-level EU decisions, so in that sense he is.
  • amelius 2y ago
    EU needs a new structure for taking decisions.
    • layer8 2y ago
      Yeah, good luck with establishing that. The 27 EU member states are still separate sovereign nations, and nationalism has been on the rise in recent years.
      • manmal 2y ago
        Wars are exactly what’s establishing things like that.
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        • layer8 2y ago
          You’re referring to the nationalism I presume. That’s true, but it doesn’t help the overall situation, unless you believe that we should just let Putin do what he wants with Ukraine.
    • hgomersall 2y ago
      There is an alternative structure - multilateral agreements between nations, ignoring the EU entirely.
      • amelius 2y ago
        That would be a good idea, indeed, at least for military matters. It would eliminate the "Orban" problem.
  • scott_w 2y ago
    He can but it’s not a huge issue because the countries that want to act can do so outside of EU structures, which would be necessary given the UK isn’t in the EU.