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Did America voted in an enemy as their president????

megadata 2y ago
Entirely possible: "The former head of Kazakhstan’s intelligence service, Alnur Mussayev, recently claimed in a Facebook post that Donald Trump was recruited by the KGB in 1987, when the 40-year-old real-estate mogul first visited Moscow." https://thehill.com/opinion/international/5162890-assessing-new-allegations-that-trump-was-recruited-by-the-kgb/ https://thehill.com/opinion/international/5162890-assessing-...
- subpixel 2y ago
  Entirely feasible and yet I can’t imagine any kompromat from a visit to Moscow - sexual or financial - hanging over Trumps head today.
  - K0balt 2y ago
    You don’t need kompromat if you are the FSB. The carrot is your family gets to join the oligarch club, which has always been a fascination for Trump ever since he managed to piss away most of the fortune he inherited. The stick is that we will kill your children and everyone you care about if you turn your back on us. You too, if it’s not hard, but we don’t even care at that point. The FSB shares that kind of reach with the USA and Isreal only on the global stage, and they have made it into a principal resource for projecting influence.
  - CamperBob2 2y ago
    It's not about Trump. The FBI was pretty sure that the Russians hacked both the DNC and RNC servers in the leadup to the 2016 election, but strangely, we only got to see the DNC's dirty laundry. It seems likely that the entire GOP is a captive asset of Putin. If not, it's hard to imagine what they would do differently. If this is how we are finally defeated as a world power, it's hard to say anything but "Well played, I guess."
  - victorbjorklund 2y ago
    I personally dont think Trump works for FSB/KGB (he is just naturally attracted to russias authoritarianism) but I guess if you had kompromat on someone back then and pressured them to commit treason then it does not matter what they did back then in the first place because the action of betreaying your country would in itself be kompromat: Keep on cooperating or we will everyone you committed treason. I bet that is how they get many people hooked. Commit one treason for money and after that you own them because you know they committed treason.
- engineer_22 2y ago
  Think for a second. What motivation would the KGB have to tell the American people that Trump is a KGB asset? Wrong answers only! Go
  - valiant55 2y ago
    I mean doesn't help that he continues to spout Russia propaganda and seems to support Russia's interests over America's. At this point it doesn't matter because America is destabilized anyway.
    - engineer_22 2y ago
      Youre so right!
  - renewiltord 2y ago
    The KGB is a truth-seeking agent with a mandate to not lie The KGB wants to help us help ourselves The KGB wants us to know we’re beaten Haha, it’s really funny that people will believe this guy. You have to have an IQ three standard deviations below to be convinced that your opponent is your best source of information.
  - lern_too_spel 2y ago
    This is a nonsensical question. The KGB doesn't exist anymore. The people talking are former Soviets but aren't Russians.
    - engineer_22 2y ago
      Once a Marine always a Marine
      - lern_too_spel 2y ago
        Even if you've effectively defected to another country as these guys have?
- acc_297 2y ago
  Americans have a long history of convincing themselves that their president is a Russian agent
  - CamperBob2 2y ago
    Really? I don't remember that. When was the last example? Certainly the Republican presidents never came under such suspicion.
    - jhp123 2y ago
      Eisenhower was accused of being a communist. Look up John Birch Society.
      - acc_297 2y ago
        This is exactly what I was thinking of but could not remember the name of that society
      - CamperBob2 2y ago
        Good point, but those guys were complete psychos. They had zero actual grounds for suspicion compared to the behavior Trump has exhibited, over and over, in plain sight.

Entirely possible: "The former head of Kazakhstan’s intelligence service, Alnur Mussayev, recently claimed in a Facebook post that Donald Trump was recruited by the KGB in 1987, when the 40-year-old real-estate mogul first visited Moscow." https://thehill.com/opinion/international/5162890-assessing-new-allegations-that-trump-was-recruited-by-the-kgb/ https://thehill.com/opinion/international/5162890-assessing-...

subpixel 2y ago
Entirely feasible and yet I can’t imagine any kompromat from a visit to Moscow - sexual or financial - hanging over Trumps head today.
- K0balt 2y ago
  You don’t need kompromat if you are the FSB. The carrot is your family gets to join the oligarch club, which has always been a fascination for Trump ever since he managed to piss away most of the fortune he inherited. The stick is that we will kill your children and everyone you care about if you turn your back on us. You too, if it’s not hard, but we don’t even care at that point. The FSB shares that kind of reach with the USA and Isreal only on the global stage, and they have made it into a principal resource for projecting influence.
- CamperBob2 2y ago
  It's not about Trump. The FBI was pretty sure that the Russians hacked both the DNC and RNC servers in the leadup to the 2016 election, but strangely, we only got to see the DNC's dirty laundry. It seems likely that the entire GOP is a captive asset of Putin. If not, it's hard to imagine what they would do differently. If this is how we are finally defeated as a world power, it's hard to say anything but "Well played, I guess."
- victorbjorklund 2y ago
  I personally dont think Trump works for FSB/KGB (he is just naturally attracted to russias authoritarianism) but I guess if you had kompromat on someone back then and pressured them to commit treason then it does not matter what they did back then in the first place because the action of betreaying your country would in itself be kompromat: Keep on cooperating or we will everyone you committed treason. I bet that is how they get many people hooked. Commit one treason for money and after that you own them because you know they committed treason.
engineer_22 2y ago
Think for a second. What motivation would the KGB have to tell the American people that Trump is a KGB asset? Wrong answers only! Go
- valiant55 2y ago
  I mean doesn't help that he continues to spout Russia propaganda and seems to support Russia's interests over America's. At this point it doesn't matter because America is destabilized anyway.
  - engineer_22 2y ago
    Youre so right!
- renewiltord 2y ago
  The KGB is a truth-seeking agent with a mandate to not lie The KGB wants to help us help ourselves The KGB wants us to know we’re beaten Haha, it’s really funny that people will believe this guy. You have to have an IQ three standard deviations below to be convinced that your opponent is your best source of information.
- lern_too_spel 2y ago
  This is a nonsensical question. The KGB doesn't exist anymore. The people talking are former Soviets but aren't Russians.
  - engineer_22 2y ago
    Once a Marine always a Marine
    - lern_too_spel 2y ago
      Even if you've effectively defected to another country as these guys have?
acc_297 2y ago
Americans have a long history of convincing themselves that their president is a Russian agent
- CamperBob2 2y ago
  Really? I don't remember that. When was the last example? Certainly the Republican presidents never came under such suspicion.
  - jhp123 2y ago
    Eisenhower was accused of being a communist. Look up John Birch Society.
    - acc_297 2y ago
      This is exactly what I was thinking of but could not remember the name of that society
    - CamperBob2 2y ago
      Good point, but those guys were complete psychos. They had zero actual grounds for suspicion compared to the behavior Trump has exhibited, over and over, in plain sight.