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This. In German the word for "video-calling" is "Skyping". Similar to MSN, the strength of the brand and goodwill that it has in some geographies is on-par with
by kaon_ 2y ago
This. In German the word for "video-calling" is "Skyping". Similar to MSN, the strength of the brand and goodwill that it has in some geographies is on-par with Google for search, or Coca Cola for coke. The fact that the software got consistently worse, year on year on year is hard to grasp for me. Microsoft made the right call to cannibalize and use teams. But how was Skype such a pain? Not being able to share screenshots in chat killed it for me.
- harvey9 2y agoCoke is a trademark owned by Coca-Cola - the generic word is cola. Their brand is so strong that even though you were thinking about the topic of branding they still got you!
- jimmydddd 2y ago"Yes, in many parts of Europe, people commonly use the word "coke" as a generic term for soda, similar to how it is used in the American South, essentially referring to any type of cola beverage rather than just the Coca-Cola brand; this is because Coca-Cola is so widely recognized across the continent." --Google's ai thing
- eythian 2y agoInteresting, where I lived (NZ), "coke" was the typical term for Coca-Cola (not generic soda, but you may be asked if Pepsi is OK), however in NL where I live now it's pretty universally "cola", and I think that's also not generic. Can't speak to other European countries though, I've never noticed.
- macintux 2y agoIn the U.S., it tends to be a regional thing. Coke, soda, pop are all in common use as the general term for soft drinks.
- arp242 2y agoI'd use "cola" in Dutch to refer to the generic type of drink, which is pretty much universal in Dutch AFAIK. But I would use "coke" in English. I'm not sure where I picked that up: I've lived in a combination of England/Ireland/NZ over many years, and to be honest I'm not actually sure how it's used there. Maybe just from US films? Although what I really wanted was a Pepsi, but she wouldn't give it to me. All I wanted was a Pepsi! AND SHE WOULDN'T GIVE IT TO ME!
- dadoum 2y agoI don't know for other European countries, but at least I can say that it is not true in France. "Coke" is reserved for cocaine, and cola is the generic word for Coca-Cola-like beverages.
- dustincoates 2y agoI don't drink enough to say for certain, but I'll say that I've heard "coca" a lot, but I never hear "cola."
- kiyundai 2y agoIn France coca is a bit generic term for coca cola and pepsi But if you have a brand that sell coke we use cola Like breizh cola or a <supermarket brand> cola
- thwarted 2y agoI've heard that the French are strict about language, but what does "reserved" mean here? What do the French call coke¹? ¹ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coke_(fuel) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coke_(fuel) ?
- wholinator2 2y agoI'd suspect the vast majority of France never has to worry about that type of coke, or maybe even knows it exists.
- Am4TIfIsER0ppos 2y agoOne upon a time wikipedia used to have links to the other language wikis on the same entry. Now I have to edit the URL to jump to the disambiguation page https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coke https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coke which tells me it is also "coke" https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coke_(charbon) https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coke_(charbon)
- klausa 2y ago
- pests 2y agoIn the US south if you ask for a coke they will ask which kind - Pepsi, sprite, or a Coke coke? Etc
- fh973 2y agoIn Germany, MS was very successful though to get organizations on Teams during the pandemic. Zoom is not a thing. Sure, it's nice to brand the verb, but when the product behind it is EOL, why bother.
- wkat4242 2y agoThat's because teams was offered for fee with m365 which most companies used anyway. Having said that, Zoom is an absolutely terrible product. The backdoor they installed in Macs for example and then when it was brought to light refused to remove it until Apple was forced to blacklist the application. They're either incompetent or evil.
- pimeys 2y agoLooking at the Linux version with their hard coded list of supported distros when trying to share your screen... I'd say both.
- ianbooker 2y agoZoom is a thing in Germany.
- ghaff 2y agoIn the US, I would say roughly everyone uses Zoom outside of companies using Teams or Meet, generally because they're bundled with the office suites they use.
- tetris11 2y agoJitsi and BBB were pretty popular across universities at the time, back when the German government were pivoting hard into Element/Matrix: https://element.io/matrix-in-germany https://element.io/matrix-in-germany
- yardie 2y agoZoom was popular with at home schoolkids. Because to use Teams you had to have a Microsoft acccount first. Zoom was a link, a meeting ID, and password. Sometimes just a link.