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What "sale of data" falls under a legal definition but would be understood by everyone to not be selling data? An example? It sounds more like 'we sell your da

What "sale of data" falls under a legal definition but would be understood by everyone to not be selling data? An example? It sounds more like 'we sell your data, but we do it in a legally protracted way so we could claim up to now that we don't'. Given this relates to Firefox's central selling proposition, they surely have an essay detailing exactly what data they're selling?

tgsovlerkhgsel 2y ago
I would expect that the default search engine deals that Firefox mostly relies on for financing could be interpreted as such. Mozilla gets money, and as a result of the deal, the searches (data) of anyone who didn't change the default go to the company running the default search engine.
- folmar 2y ago
  By default Google gets not only search but everything entered into the address bar (for "suggestions").
  - account42 2y ago
    Yeah, that's pretty creepy - that also includes private that that would otherwise not reach the internet.
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Yizahi 2y ago
It is always the same idea - if the data is even slightly touched and/or processed, it is suddenly not a personal data anymore and is "ok" to be sold.
glenstein 2y ago
>What "sale of data" falls under a legal definition but would be understood by everyone to not be selling data? An example? I assume probably data that's anonymized (in some sense) and/or aggregated (in some sense). But there's so much grey area there that it's a lot less reassuring than a straight up blanket statement that they used to be able to make.
- account42 2y ago
  The real problem is that they are collecting too much data in the first place. Really, the company making the browser should receive no data at all - even auto-update servers can be handled by other non-profit organizations like universities.

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What "sale of data" falls under a legal definition but would be understood by everyone to not be selling data? An example? It sounds more like 'we sell your da

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tgsovlerkhgsel 2y ago
I would expect that the default search engine deals that Firefox mostly relies on for financing could be interpreted as such. Mozilla gets money, and as a result of the deal, the searches (data) of anyone who didn't change the default go to the company running the default search engine.
- folmar 2y ago
  By default Google gets not only search but everything entered into the address bar (for "suggestions").
  - account42 2y ago
    Yeah, that's pretty creepy - that also includes private that that would otherwise not reach the internet.
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Yizahi 2y ago
It is always the same idea - if the data is even slightly touched and/or processed, it is suddenly not a personal data anymore and is "ok" to be sold.
glenstein 2y ago
>What "sale of data" falls under a legal definition but would be understood by everyone to not be selling data? An example? I assume probably data that's anonymized (in some sense) and/or aggregated (in some sense). But there's so much grey area there that it's a lot less reassuring than a straight up blanket statement that they used to be able to make.
- account42 2y ago
  The real problem is that they are collecting too much data in the first place. Really, the company making the browser should receive no data at all - even auto-update servers can be handled by other non-profit organizations like universities.