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Who's the target audience for this pricing that can afford this? The RUM pricing is indeed quite ridiculous. It feels quite ridiculous, especially if you are m
by jeeyoungk 2y ago
Who's the target audience for this pricing that can afford this? The RUM pricing is indeed quite ridiculous.
It feels quite ridiculous, especially if you are managing "soft" resources like IAM roles via Terraform / Pulumi. At least with real resources (say, RDS instances), one can argue that Terraform / Pulumi pricing is a small percentage of the cloud bill. But IAM roles are not charged for in cloud, and there are so many of them (especially if you use IaaC to create very elaborate scheme).
- Schnitz 2y agoPulumi’s RUM pricing is why I was very hesitant to even evaluate it as an alternative to just using terraform.
- Aeolun 2y agoI’m finding that the basic backend functionality of Pulumi and Terraform managed cloud is fairly easy to build (especially Terraform, I can’t quite believe how absurdly simple their cloud is…)
- hiatus 2y agoPlus there are open source projects like Atlantis that fit the bill for many teams with regards to terraform automation.
- sausagefeet 2y agoTerrateam too[0] Although Terrateam is more tightly integrated with a VCS provider. Disclaimer: I co-founded Terrateam. [0]https://github.com/terrateamio/terrateam https://github.com/terrateamio/terrateam
- progbits 2y agoIt also creates horrible incentives. Oh I won't run this in isolated project or under a separate service account since that costs more, let's just pile everything together.
- ryanisnan 2y agoTo be fair to RUM pricing, there are also horrible incentives for workflow invocation based pricing models, or workspace count models.
- brudgers 2y agoWho's the target audience for this pricing that can afford this? The kind of customers it is good to have. Because filtering out price sensitive customers is a sound business strategy. As a rule of thumb, solve any problem your customer might have. Except not having money.
- bastawhiz 2y agoGood for who? Good for people getting bonuses? Good for executives? It doesn't seem to be good for the customers or the people using the software or the people contributing to the open source code. It also doesn't seem to have been good for the investors, looking at the other comments.
- hiatus 2y agoGood for people who got in pre-IPO. Bad for people who got in post-IPO.
- tiniestcabbage 2y agoThere is an argument to be made that price-sensitive customers are a neglected market. Granted, marketing to them is very different - they're prone to being scooped if someone comes by willing to sell your same product to them at a loss (hi, Amazon and Walmart) - but there are a lot more of them and you're not fighting every startup on the planet for the same handful of clients. Business have made a killing in China and India for a reason, after all.
- brudgers 2y ago+ There’s an argument against every rule of thumb. + For what it is worth, the just-one-percent-of-all-Chinese is historically a poor business strategy. + As you point out, targeting price sensitive customers puts you in competition with Walmart and Amazon. Not only that but you are competing for their worst customers. you're not fighting every startup on the planet for the same handful of clients Not having access to good clients/customers suggests the business idea might not be viable. Chasing money from people without the wherewithal or will to pay, does not make your business idea viable. But again it is a rule of thumb.
- thedougd 2y agoThat must explain why they broke up the S3 resources into a bunch of tiny resources.