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I'm surprised the deal was worth more than the market cap when they did the license rug pull.

toomuchtodo 2y ago
Broadcom VMware play. If you’re invested as an enterprise in the ecosystem, is going to be a while before you can extricate yourself. In the meantime, you must pay up.
- nailer 2y ago
  That's true, but it's easier to switch from Terraform to Pulumi than it is to move from VMware to some other virtualization platform.
  - ferminaut 2y ago
    secrets, too. Org's already knee deep in vault / vault-agent for PKI and secrets wont be eager to switch.
    - acedTrex 2y ago
      But vault was already a pretty enterprise offering. I'd imagine most people running it had an existing contract.
- burnte 2y ago
  I'm pretty good at engineering fast moves. I took a company off of Salesforce in 45 days. VMware servers are even easier to changeout. Never done Terraform though.
  - JohnMakin 2y ago
    terraform is OSS, unless you're using the hosted HCP version (workspaces? I think they're called), which, I've been using terraform heavily and at scale since v0.7 and I have never once thought I needed or would pay for something like that.
    - cube2222 2y ago
      Terraform is not OSS, it switched to a source-available license over a year ago. OpenTofu[0] is the OSS fork though. [0]: https://github.com/opentofu/opentofu https://github.com/opentofu/opentofu Disclaimer: involved with OpenTofu
      - JohnMakin 2y ago
        I'm well aware and have contributed to OpenTofu project in a small manner. I hope you'll forgive me slightly misspeaking - any version of terraform before that license change is OSS. It is, however, perfectly free to use and most companies I've worked with are hard-pinned on a particular version of terraform and rarely on the bleeding edge.
        cube2222 2y ago
        No worries, that makes sense! And thanks for contributing :)
    - pknomad 2y ago
      Yep. You're thinking of TFE. Workspaces and Stacks are the the advertised method for building composable infra.
  - grepfru_it 2y ago
    This cowboy attitude doesn’t fly in regulated industries. Where VMware and co reign supreme
    - burnte 2y ago
      I've been in healthcare/finance for a decade. C level. I'm not a cowboy, I'm incredibly thorough, and I have a reputation for excellent work done fast. I'm in the third company for this PE firm because of the strong reputation I've created working at their companies. In 2021 they brought me in part-time consulting on one healthcare company where in 7 months I reorganized the IT structure, helping them land a very nice 9 figure exit. My kind of operations work VERY well in highly regulated industries because I'm meticulous about regulations. Just because I can do it quickly doesn't mean I do it poorly, and I don't appreciate the assumption that I'm a "cowboy" being reckless. And it would appear to me you are underinformed about how much migration off of VMware is really happening in these highly regulated industries. There's a tremendous amount of low-profile engineering going on to migrate away. No one is tipping off Broadcom because they don't want BCom to try turning the screws even more.

Broadcom VMware play. If you’re invested as an enterprise in the ecosystem, is going to be a while before you can extricate yourself. In the meantime, you must pay up.

nailer 2y ago
That's true, but it's easier to switch from Terraform to Pulumi than it is to move from VMware to some other virtualization platform.
- ferminaut 2y ago
  secrets, too. Org's already knee deep in vault / vault-agent for PKI and secrets wont be eager to switch.
  - acedTrex 2y ago
    But vault was already a pretty enterprise offering. I'd imagine most people running it had an existing contract.
burnte 2y ago
I'm pretty good at engineering fast moves. I took a company off of Salesforce in 45 days. VMware servers are even easier to changeout. Never done Terraform though.
- JohnMakin 2y ago
  terraform is OSS, unless you're using the hosted HCP version (workspaces? I think they're called), which, I've been using terraform heavily and at scale since v0.7 and I have never once thought I needed or would pay for something like that.
  - cube2222 2y ago
    Terraform is not OSS, it switched to a source-available license over a year ago. OpenTofu[0] is the OSS fork though. [0]: https://github.com/opentofu/opentofu https://github.com/opentofu/opentofu Disclaimer: involved with OpenTofu
    - JohnMakin 2y ago
      I'm well aware and have contributed to OpenTofu project in a small manner. I hope you'll forgive me slightly misspeaking - any version of terraform before that license change is OSS. It is, however, perfectly free to use and most companies I've worked with are hard-pinned on a particular version of terraform and rarely on the bleeding edge.
      - cube2222 2y ago
        No worries, that makes sense! And thanks for contributing :)
  - pknomad 2y ago
    Yep. You're thinking of TFE. Workspaces and Stacks are the the advertised method for building composable infra.
- grepfru_it 2y ago
  This cowboy attitude doesn’t fly in regulated industries. Where VMware and co reign supreme
  - burnte 2y ago
    I've been in healthcare/finance for a decade. C level. I'm not a cowboy, I'm incredibly thorough, and I have a reputation for excellent work done fast. I'm in the third company for this PE firm because of the strong reputation I've created working at their companies. In 2021 they brought me in part-time consulting on one healthcare company where in 7 months I reorganized the IT structure, helping them land a very nice 9 figure exit. My kind of operations work VERY well in highly regulated industries because I'm meticulous about regulations. Just because I can do it quickly doesn't mean I do it poorly, and I don't appreciate the assumption that I'm a "cowboy" being reckless. And it would appear to me you are underinformed about how much migration off of VMware is really happening in these highly regulated industries. There's a tremendous amount of low-profile engineering going on to migrate away. No one is tipping off Broadcom because they don't want BCom to try turning the screws even more.