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> For what it's worth, it can be removed in about 4 seconds. Sure, but why should anyone have to?

ziddoap 2y ago
Look, I hate ads as much as the next person. But Firefox also needs to generate money somehow, right? A small advert to amazon/hotels/whatever that can be removed basically permanently with a small change in the settings is about the best balance I can think of. If you donate to Mozilla, I have more sympathy for you. Perhaps they could make it so that if you have a Firefox account linked to a donation that they remove this, or something.
- happymellon 2y ago
  I have struggled to find methods as an individual to donate to Firefox.
  - _Algernon_ 2y ago
    https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/donate/ https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/donate/
    - diggan 2y ago
      I'm fairly sure that's for donating to Mozilla, where the funds go who knows where (kidding, it goes to the executives and marketing). Is there anywhere I can donate to Firefox, specifically the development and the maintenance of the browser itself, and only the browser? Maybe donating directly to developers working on Firefox would be the best approach here.
    - yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
      Nope! In fact, last I heard, donations to the Mozilla Foundation could not be used at all for the browser, which is developed by the Mozilla Corporation.
    - e2le 2y ago
      That's for donations to the Mozilla foundation, they aren't used to fund development of Firefox. Mozilla corporation and Mozilla foundation are distinct entities.
  - imagetic 2y ago
    Same. They should have offered us monthly services that made sense. Long long ago.
- throwup238 2y ago
  > But Firefox also needs to generate money somehow, right? WHY? They get hundreds of millions a year to place Google as the default search engine. That’s a shit ton of money. At that level they could even put some away every year for an endowment. Why does a nonprofit need to generate even more money by violating its users?
  - bmn__ 2y ago
    Money is drying up because Google is being ordered to terminate the deal, and they refused to save it and rather spend it on flights to Zambia to make a festival session about "feminist AI alliance for climate justice" "centering on LGBTQIA+ individuals". Their words, not mine. See videos 4 months old or younger: https://www.youtube.com/@Lunduke/search?query=mozilla https://www.youtube.com/@Lunduke/search?query=mozilla
    - diggan 2y ago
      Never hear of that person before, but before listening to anyone, I like to go through their material to see if they at least give the impression of a balanced and impartial person. > The company made popular by making modular laptops now makes a desktop with soldered-on RAM. Bonus: They appear to support targeting children with Trans cartoons. https://lunduke.substack.com/p/framework-unveils-2000-non-upgradable https://lunduke.substack.com/p/framework-unveils-2000-non-up... > Leftist Extremists Leave Linux Kernel, Demand Conservatives Be Banned > Leftist Linux developers demand those with wrong politics "be removed". "Right-wing people are not welcomed," says one. "You can [CENSORED] right off from my projects," the other. https://lunduke.substack.com/p/leftist-extremists-leave-linux-kernel https://lunduke.substack.com/p/leftist-extremists-leave-linu... In this case, it seems they are neither balanced nor impartial, so beware people who chose to engage with that. It seems Lunduke is yet another culture-warrior masquerading like "The last bastion of truly independent Tech Journalism". I'm sure they get lots of traffic from it, but it's not really a reliable source for facts.
      - bmn__ 2y ago
        Why shoot the messenger? Not a rhetorical question, answer it if you are able to. diggan, your way of thinking needs to face strong criticism. It brings you into the realm of make-belief and delusion and turns you away from the truth. Dealing with the trappings instead of the essence of things is no way to live in this world. Be level-headed and apply rationality, otherwise I predict you will see supposed enemies hiding behind every stone and then it will end badly for you. FWIW, anyone can follow to the sources in order to come to the same summary, or through interpretation to the same conclusions. It only takes half a minute with a Web search and see that B.L. indeed is a reliable transmitter of facts. It took you longer to sow the FUD than to simply do the verification! *smh* Here are the sources: * https://schedule.mozillafestival.org/session/TKUXAQ-1 https://schedule.mozillafestival.org/session/TKUXAQ-1 * https://xcancel.com/bazzite_gg/status/1887913668182163478 https://xcancel.com/bazzite_gg/status/1887913668182163478 * https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/nouveau/2025-February/046677.html#:~:text=be%20removed https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/nouveau/2025-February... * https://chaos.social/@karolherbst#:~:text=not%20welcomed https://chaos.social/@karolherbst#:~:text=not%20welcomed * https://web.archive.org/web/20240619223519/https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/110412745949762324#:~:text=you%20can%20f%75ck%20right%20off https://web.archive.org/web/20240619223519/https://social.tr...
- account42 2y ago
  Firefox is supposedly owned by a nonprofit organization that's expected to act in the user's interest. Nonprofits are supposed to raise funds from donations and grants, not via enshittification for the primary subject of their mission. The problem is that besides being a supposed nonprofit (Mozilla foundation), the same people also want to larp as a sillicon valley tech business (Mozzilla corp which largely shares leadership with the org) with insanely high saleries funded anti-user bullshit.

Look, I hate ads as much as the next person. But Firefox also needs to generate money somehow, right? A small advert to amazon/hotels/whatever that can be removed basically permanently with a small change in the settings is about the best balance I can think of. If you donate to Mozilla, I have more sympathy for you. Perhaps they could make it so that if you have a Firefox account linked to a donation that they remove this, or something.

happymellon 2y ago
I have struggled to find methods as an individual to donate to Firefox.
- _Algernon_ 2y ago
  https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/donate/ https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/donate/
  - diggan 2y ago
    I'm fairly sure that's for donating to Mozilla, where the funds go who knows where (kidding, it goes to the executives and marketing). Is there anywhere I can donate to Firefox, specifically the development and the maintenance of the browser itself, and only the browser? Maybe donating directly to developers working on Firefox would be the best approach here.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 2y ago
    Nope! In fact, last I heard, donations to the Mozilla Foundation could not be used at all for the browser, which is developed by the Mozilla Corporation.
  - e2le 2y ago
    That's for donations to the Mozilla foundation, they aren't used to fund development of Firefox. Mozilla corporation and Mozilla foundation are distinct entities.
- imagetic 2y ago
  Same. They should have offered us monthly services that made sense. Long long ago.
throwup238 2y ago
> But Firefox also needs to generate money somehow, right? WHY? They get hundreds of millions a year to place Google as the default search engine. That’s a shit ton of money. At that level they could even put some away every year for an endowment. Why does a nonprofit need to generate even more money by violating its users?
- bmn__ 2y ago
  Money is drying up because Google is being ordered to terminate the deal, and they refused to save it and rather spend it on flights to Zambia to make a festival session about "feminist AI alliance for climate justice" "centering on LGBTQIA+ individuals". Their words, not mine. See videos 4 months old or younger: https://www.youtube.com/@Lunduke/search?query=mozilla https://www.youtube.com/@Lunduke/search?query=mozilla
  - diggan 2y ago
    Never hear of that person before, but before listening to anyone, I like to go through their material to see if they at least give the impression of a balanced and impartial person. > The company made popular by making modular laptops now makes a desktop with soldered-on RAM. Bonus: They appear to support targeting children with Trans cartoons. https://lunduke.substack.com/p/framework-unveils-2000-non-upgradable https://lunduke.substack.com/p/framework-unveils-2000-non-up... > Leftist Extremists Leave Linux Kernel, Demand Conservatives Be Banned > Leftist Linux developers demand those with wrong politics "be removed". "Right-wing people are not welcomed," says one. "You can [CENSORED] right off from my projects," the other. https://lunduke.substack.com/p/leftist-extremists-leave-linux-kernel https://lunduke.substack.com/p/leftist-extremists-leave-linu... In this case, it seems they are neither balanced nor impartial, so beware people who chose to engage with that. It seems Lunduke is yet another culture-warrior masquerading like "The last bastion of truly independent Tech Journalism". I'm sure they get lots of traffic from it, but it's not really a reliable source for facts.
    - bmn__ 2y ago
      Why shoot the messenger? Not a rhetorical question, answer it if you are able to. diggan, your way of thinking needs to face strong criticism. It brings you into the realm of make-belief and delusion and turns you away from the truth. Dealing with the trappings instead of the essence of things is no way to live in this world. Be level-headed and apply rationality, otherwise I predict you will see supposed enemies hiding behind every stone and then it will end badly for you. FWIW, anyone can follow to the sources in order to come to the same summary, or through interpretation to the same conclusions. It only takes half a minute with a Web search and see that B.L. indeed is a reliable transmitter of facts. It took you longer to sow the FUD than to simply do the verification! *smh* Here are the sources: * https://schedule.mozillafestival.org/session/TKUXAQ-1 https://schedule.mozillafestival.org/session/TKUXAQ-1 * https://xcancel.com/bazzite_gg/status/1887913668182163478 https://xcancel.com/bazzite_gg/status/1887913668182163478 * https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/nouveau/2025-February/046677.html#:~:text=be%20removed https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/nouveau/2025-February... * https://chaos.social/@karolherbst#:~:text=not%20welcomed https://chaos.social/@karolherbst#:~:text=not%20welcomed * https://web.archive.org/web/20240619223519/https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/110412745949762324#:~:text=you%20can%20f%75ck%20right%20off https://web.archive.org/web/20240619223519/https://social.tr...
account42 2y ago
Firefox is supposedly owned by a nonprofit organization that's expected to act in the user's interest. Nonprofits are supposed to raise funds from donations and grants, not via enshittification for the primary subject of their mission. The problem is that besides being a supposed nonprofit (Mozilla foundation), the same people also want to larp as a sillicon valley tech business (Mozzilla corp which largely shares leadership with the org) with insanely high saleries funded anti-user bullshit.