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Andrew Tate and brother leave Romania for US after travel ban lifted

67 points by rob74 2y ago

rob74 2y ago
> Romania’s public prosecutor’s office said it had approved the brothers’ request to travel to the US pending investigation, and judicial sources told local media they were due to return for a court hearing in March. Right... as if anyone believes that's going to happen! And in case you're wondering why they were released: > Their flight to the US comes after the Financial Times reported that Trump’s special envoy, Richard Grenell, had spoken to the Romanian foreign minister, Emil Hurezeanu, about the Tate brothers at this month’s Munich Security Conference.
- actionfromafar 2y ago
  Really fine people.
  - actionfromafar 2y ago
    Please, come out in the open, and explain your affection for these brothers. But you still have just a hint of shame, don't you...
    - dekhn 2y ago
      looks like you just want to start a fight.
- x187463 2y ago
  Probably wants to offer them senior leadership roles at a federal agency.
  - actionfromafar 2y ago
    Probably! https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defe...
  - lifestyleguru 2y ago
    This would be a joke few years ago, now that's a reasonable prediction.
  - ceejayoz 2y ago
    In charge of Title IX implementation.
  - dingnuts 2y ago
    Tate is a hardcore convert to Islam. Not sure if that's going to play with the MAGA base but what do I know
    - tmp202502 2y ago
      Tate is not a hardcore convert to anything. Tate's Islam conversion is about two things: 1) putting up a flag to find somewhere comfortable without an extradition treaty where his views are normal 2) seeking narcissistic supply from an easily identified demographic: angry, wealthy young muslim men in repressive countries. He's stylised himself like that: like the wealthy son of an exiled Emirati. He's a malignant narcissist: broken, cold, and lonely inside in a way that only adoration can fix. As it goes, Tate shares with Musk and Trump a genuinely tragic origin story of adoring a bullying, abusive, cold, father. (With one likely additional common factor: neurodivergence. Autism in Tate's case, AuDHD in Musk's, ADHD in Trump's) The paradox of this world is that if Trump, Musk and Tate sat down, talked and cried together about the abuse and coldness of their early years -- their utterly broken childhood -- then masculine culture and the world might get somewhere.
      - godsinhisheaven 2y ago
        Thats the thing about neurodivergence, it's a double edged sword I feel like. Like, all of the great men of history were extremely likely to be neurodivergent, so if you're a normal person with no mental illness, you kind of just know you won't be the next Thomas Edison or Genghis Khan. At the same time, you're a normal person, so you won't like, do something crazy like electrocute an elephant or kill millions of people.
      - acdha 2y ago
        > With one likely additional common factor: neurodivergence. Autism in Tate's case, AuDHD in Musk's, ADHD in Trump's Have any of them have actually been diagnosed? If not, I would consider whether that’s a genuine factor or an attempt to use the neurodivergent community as a shield.
        2y ago
- rasz 2y ago
  Calin Georgescu is probably next.
paulryanrogers 2y ago
Is this what folks voted for? To pressure for the release of a man who openly brags about pushing women into sex work and profiting from their labor? It's amazing to me he wasn't arrested in the US before he ever left for Romania.
- silverquiet 2y ago
  After the "grab them by the pussy" thing, I'd think people are rather eyes-open about who they voted for.
  - wkat4242 2y ago
    Except they aren't because they voted for him after that and then again this time. So we must conclude that they support this behaviour. Kinda weird considering his audience is super conservative especially on sexual topics. But I've given up trying to understand it. I'm just glad I don't live in the US.
    - magicalhippo 2y ago
      The US internet buddies I've talked to who voted republican did it more because they did not under any circumstance want to vote for the democratic party. Based on how intensely they despised the thought of voting dem, I got the feeling the republican candidate could literally have been Satan and they'd still vote rep. I too gave up trying to understand.
      - HappySweeney 2y ago
        It's easy to understand, though? Daily outrage and vilification porn. Highly addictive stuff, and people will equivocate and believe the most preposterous things you've ever heard in order to keep the outrage righteous and their pornographer of choice credible.
        magicalhippo 2y ago
NVHacker 2y ago
After more than 15 years of EU membership, there is no rule of law in Romania; a sad truth, obvious to anyone willing to take an interest. That's not Trump's fault, is it ?
- Cipater 2y ago
  Their flight to the US comes after the Financial Times reported that Trump’s special envoy, Richard Grenell, had spoken to the Romanian foreign minister, Emil Hurezeanu, about the Tate brothers at this month’s Munich Security Conference.
  - NVHacker 2y ago
    Is not the first time people flee abroad while prosecuted in Romania. There are quite a few high profile cases, usually for corruption. My point is that anything is possible in Romanian justice, either through bribes or influence.
- barrenko 2y ago
  + e.g. in Serbia EU's leadership (Ursula and the gang) applauds the local BDFL publicly, and on the same day EU report comes out condemning state of political freedoms and rule of law in Serbia. And they do this the whole day. Meanwhile in the Ukraine the fire openly burns.
- tormeh 2y ago
  The law in Romania is certainly not known for its perfection, but what legal system doesn't flex when the US (or a regional equivalent great power) leans on it? This is not a reasonable benchmark.
  - NVHacker 2y ago
    What ?!?
temptemptemp111 2y ago
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bananapub 2y ago
imagine using the coercive power of the world's only superpower to get cunts like these busted out of jail. what the actual fuck.
- adonovan 2y ago
  No need to imagine!
budududuroiu 2y ago
I’m deeply ashamed my country makes HN with this headline, but that’s the sobering truth, Romania operates under a two-tier legal system. Too much to go into detail here, but this is just one of the many cases where politically connected people get away with it. Other cases involve threatening journalists that break corruption stories, attempting to bury whistleblowers with fake “mental illness” diagnostics , etc.
- switch007 2y ago
  Not to justify it at all, but which countries do you think have a single tier, identical justice system for peasants, billionaires and kings alike? And politics unaffected by money?
Swelbig345 2y ago
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67 points by rob74 2y ago

> Romania’s public prosecutor’s office said it had approved the brothers’ request to travel to the US pending investigation, and judicial sources told local media they were due to return for a court hearing in March. Right... as if anyone believes that's going to happen! And in case you're wondering why they were released: > Their flight to the US comes after the Financial Times reported that Trump’s special envoy, Richard Grenell, had spoken to the Romanian foreign minister, Emil Hurezeanu, about the Tate brothers at this month’s Munich Security Conference.

actionfromafar 2y ago
Really fine people.
- actionfromafar 2y ago
  Please, come out in the open, and explain your affection for these brothers. But you still have just a hint of shame, don't you...
  - dekhn 2y ago
    looks like you just want to start a fight.
x187463 2y ago
Probably wants to offer them senior leadership roles at a federal agency.
- actionfromafar 2y ago
  Probably! https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defending-women-from-gender-ideology-extremism-and-restoring-biological-truth-to-the-federal-government/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/defe...
- lifestyleguru 2y ago
  This would be a joke few years ago, now that's a reasonable prediction.
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  In charge of Title IX implementation.
- dingnuts 2y ago
  Tate is a hardcore convert to Islam. Not sure if that's going to play with the MAGA base but what do I know
  - tmp202502 2y ago
    Tate is not a hardcore convert to anything. Tate's Islam conversion is about two things: 1) putting up a flag to find somewhere comfortable without an extradition treaty where his views are normal 2) seeking narcissistic supply from an easily identified demographic: angry, wealthy young muslim men in repressive countries. He's stylised himself like that: like the wealthy son of an exiled Emirati. He's a malignant narcissist: broken, cold, and lonely inside in a way that only adoration can fix. As it goes, Tate shares with Musk and Trump a genuinely tragic origin story of adoring a bullying, abusive, cold, father. (With one likely additional common factor: neurodivergence. Autism in Tate's case, AuDHD in Musk's, ADHD in Trump's) The paradox of this world is that if Trump, Musk and Tate sat down, talked and cried together about the abuse and coldness of their early years -- their utterly broken childhood -- then masculine culture and the world might get somewhere.
    - godsinhisheaven 2y ago
      Thats the thing about neurodivergence, it's a double edged sword I feel like. Like, all of the great men of history were extremely likely to be neurodivergent, so if you're a normal person with no mental illness, you kind of just know you won't be the next Thomas Edison or Genghis Khan. At the same time, you're a normal person, so you won't like, do something crazy like electrocute an elephant or kill millions of people.
    - acdha 2y ago
      > With one likely additional common factor: neurodivergence. Autism in Tate's case, AuDHD in Musk's, ADHD in Trump's Have any of them have actually been diagnosed? If not, I would consider whether that’s a genuine factor or an attempt to use the neurodivergent community as a shield.
      - 2y ago
rasz 2y ago
Calin Georgescu is probably next.

paulryanrogers 2y ago

Is this what folks voted for? To pressure for the release of a man who openly brags about pushing women into sex work and profiting from their labor? It's amazing to me he wasn't arrested in the US before he ever left for Romania.

silverquiet 2y ago
After the "grab them by the pussy" thing, I'd think people are rather eyes-open about who they voted for.
- wkat4242 2y ago
  Except they aren't because they voted for him after that and then again this time. So we must conclude that they support this behaviour. Kinda weird considering his audience is super conservative especially on sexual topics. But I've given up trying to understand it. I'm just glad I don't live in the US.
  - magicalhippo 2y ago
    The US internet buddies I've talked to who voted republican did it more because they did not under any circumstance want to vote for the democratic party. Based on how intensely they despised the thought of voting dem, I got the feeling the republican candidate could literally have been Satan and they'd still vote rep. I too gave up trying to understand.
    - HappySweeney 2y ago
      It's easy to understand, though? Daily outrage and vilification porn. Highly addictive stuff, and people will equivocate and believe the most preposterous things you've ever heard in order to keep the outrage righteous and their pornographer of choice credible.
      - magicalhippo 2y ago

NVHacker 2y ago

After more than 15 years of EU membership, there is no rule of law in Romania; a sad truth, obvious to anyone willing to take an interest. That's not Trump's fault, is it ?

Cipater 2y ago
Their flight to the US comes after the Financial Times reported that Trump’s special envoy, Richard Grenell, had spoken to the Romanian foreign minister, Emil Hurezeanu, about the Tate brothers at this month’s Munich Security Conference.
- NVHacker 2y ago
  Is not the first time people flee abroad while prosecuted in Romania. There are quite a few high profile cases, usually for corruption. My point is that anything is possible in Romanian justice, either through bribes or influence.
barrenko 2y ago
+ e.g. in Serbia EU's leadership (Ursula and the gang) applauds the local BDFL publicly, and on the same day EU report comes out condemning state of political freedoms and rule of law in Serbia. And they do this the whole day. Meanwhile in the Ukraine the fire openly burns.
tormeh 2y ago
The law in Romania is certainly not known for its perfection, but what legal system doesn't flex when the US (or a regional equivalent great power) leans on it? This is not a reasonable benchmark.
- NVHacker 2y ago
  What ?!?

temptemptemp111 2y ago

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bananapub 2y ago

imagine using the coercive power of the world's only superpower to get cunts like these busted out of jail. what the actual fuck.

adonovan 2y ago
No need to imagine!

budududuroiu 2y ago

I’m deeply ashamed my country makes HN with this headline, but that’s the sobering truth, Romania operates under a two-tier legal system. Too much to go into detail here, but this is just one of the many cases where politically connected people get away with it. Other cases involve threatening journalists that break corruption stories, attempting to bury whistleblowers with fake “mental illness” diagnostics , etc.

switch007 2y ago
Not to justify it at all, but which countries do you think have a single tier, identical justice system for peasants, billionaires and kings alike? And politics unaffected by money?

Swelbig345 2y ago

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