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The transmission of illnesses would be greatly reduced if companies gave decent sick time benefits. At my company, my sick time is rolled into my vacation time.

The transmission of illnesses would be greatly reduced if companies gave decent sick time benefits. At my company, my sick time is rolled into my vacation time. If I am take off work for an illness, it counts against my vacation time. I once was sick with mono for 4 weeks and went to work miserable everyday. I did almost nothing but sit and stare at my monitor all day.

swombat 18y ago
That's atrocious. I think it's probably illegal in the UK - and we have 20-30 days of paid vacation! I'm surprised you managed to stay awake with mono... I remember I stayed in bed for about 20 hours out of every 24, for about 6 weeks.
- icey 18y ago
  This is something that's becoming more common in the US - "personal time" replaces sick and vacation time. Ostensibly, it's to encourage people scheduling time off than feeling like they need to "burn through" their sick time every year. However, I think it may have to do with paying out accrued vacation time for employees. I'm not well enough versed in HR stuff to speak to that though.
- bpyne 18y ago
  I work for a university in the US now. We get 2 weeks of vacation time, 5 days of personal time (sick + ???), and the university shuts down for almost 2 weeks at the end of each year. On the whole, it's far better than most employers I've had. However, being a parent with a child in daycare causes the problem that I have to burn through my personal days when she's sick so that I have nothing left over when I'm sick - so, it's off to work I go.
cturner 18y ago
The transmission of illnesses would be greatly reduced if companies gave decent sick time benefits. Is transmission of illness a bad thing? By getting constantly a little bit sick it builds you up. And there's that whole thing about allergies from enthusiastic immune systems, etc. Also, often diseases are contageous before you are aware of them. I think chicken pox is like this, maybe common virii also.
- ovi256 18y ago
  General immunity only build up until about 20 years old (end of adolescence, basically), sorry, but can't remember the source. Afterwards, exposure to disease does not contribute anything to general immunity. Specific immunity to colds is impossible, as the virus mutates several times per year (you never get the same cold twice). Also, frequent colds tend to lower general immunity, opening the door for secondary infections.
  - captainobvious 18y ago
    >sorry, but can't remember the source You'll have to do better than that; it definitely isn't like the immune system stops adapting after the age of 20; otherwise vaccines wouldn't work.
astrec 18y ago
Crazy. In Australia we get min 4 weeks annual leave, 8-12 sick days, plus long service leave as early as 10 years (depending on state). My company actually has a problem with presenteeism, that is, staff coming into work half dead instead of taking a couple of days off. Usually we send them home, but occasionally someone will take out a whole department with some bug or another.
bmj 18y ago
Or put in the infrastructure to allow someone to work from home. I'm rarely sick enough to not get out of bed, but since I get to work on my bike every day, in the middle of a winter, a little cold makes it pretty difficult to make it to the office. On those days, I simply head into the home office and put in my time. And others have pointed out, I tend to be more productive at home.
thomasmallen 18y ago
That's actually pretty ordinary (sick days run over into vacation; it's all PTO). Like most Americans here, I get six sick days and twelve days vacation annually.
- guruz 18y ago
  I can finally understand why more and more Americans come to Europe. (this is not meant as a troll or a flame, I really didn't know how good European work laws are until reading things like that).
  - thomasmallen 18y ago
    Many jobs here, there are.
blackguardx 18y ago
By the way, I work in the US and get three weeks of combined sick time/vacation. My company calls it "flexible time off."
nradov 18y ago
I really like the flexibility of the PTO system. As long as you leave yourself a buffer of days in case you get sick it works great.
- mattmcknight 18y ago
  We give people the option 4 weeks "Paid Time Off" or 3 weeks vacation and "unlimited" sick (although you move to short term disability if you need 5 or more days in a row). About 80 percent of people choose the latter. We also give 7 fixed holidays and 5 floating holidays.

swombat 18y ago

That's atrocious. I think it's probably illegal in the UK - and we have 20-30 days of paid vacation! I'm surprised you managed to stay awake with mono... I remember I stayed in bed for about 20 hours out of every 24, for about 6 weeks.

icey 18y ago
This is something that's becoming more common in the US - "personal time" replaces sick and vacation time. Ostensibly, it's to encourage people scheduling time off than feeling like they need to "burn through" their sick time every year. However, I think it may have to do with paying out accrued vacation time for employees. I'm not well enough versed in HR stuff to speak to that though.
bpyne 18y ago
I work for a university in the US now. We get 2 weeks of vacation time, 5 days of personal time (sick + ???), and the university shuts down for almost 2 weeks at the end of each year. On the whole, it's far better than most employers I've had. However, being a parent with a child in daycare causes the problem that I have to burn through my personal days when she's sick so that I have nothing left over when I'm sick - so, it's off to work I go.

cturner 18y ago

The transmission of illnesses would be greatly reduced if companies gave decent sick time benefits. Is transmission of illness a bad thing? By getting constantly a little bit sick it builds you up. And there's that whole thing about allergies from enthusiastic immune systems, etc. Also, often diseases are contageous before you are aware of them. I think chicken pox is like this, maybe common virii also.

ovi256 18y ago
General immunity only build up until about 20 years old (end of adolescence, basically), sorry, but can't remember the source. Afterwards, exposure to disease does not contribute anything to general immunity. Specific immunity to colds is impossible, as the virus mutates several times per year (you never get the same cold twice). Also, frequent colds tend to lower general immunity, opening the door for secondary infections.
- captainobvious 18y ago
  >sorry, but can't remember the source You'll have to do better than that; it definitely isn't like the immune system stops adapting after the age of 20; otherwise vaccines wouldn't work.

astrec 18y ago

Crazy. In Australia we get min 4 weeks annual leave, 8-12 sick days, plus long service leave as early as 10 years (depending on state). My company actually has a problem with presenteeism, that is, staff coming into work half dead instead of taking a couple of days off. Usually we send them home, but occasionally someone will take out a whole department with some bug or another.

bmj 18y ago

Or put in the infrastructure to allow someone to work from home. I'm rarely sick enough to not get out of bed, but since I get to work on my bike every day, in the middle of a winter, a little cold makes it pretty difficult to make it to the office. On those days, I simply head into the home office and put in my time. And others have pointed out, I tend to be more productive at home.

thomasmallen 18y ago

That's actually pretty ordinary (sick days run over into vacation; it's all PTO). Like most Americans here, I get six sick days and twelve days vacation annually.

guruz 18y ago
I can finally understand why more and more Americans come to Europe. (this is not meant as a troll or a flame, I really didn't know how good European work laws are until reading things like that).
- thomasmallen 18y ago
  Many jobs here, there are.

blackguardx 18y ago

By the way, I work in the US and get three weeks of combined sick time/vacation. My company calls it "flexible time off."

nradov 18y ago

I really like the flexibility of the PTO system. As long as you leave yourself a buffer of days in case you get sick it works great.

mattmcknight 18y ago
We give people the option 4 weeks "Paid Time Off" or 3 weeks vacation and "unlimited" sick (although you move to short term disability if you need 5 or more days in a row). About 80 percent of people choose the latter. We also give 7 fixed holidays and 5 floating holidays.