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Why would anyone do this? With 5M you can either move to Thailand or Vietnam and live without working for the rest of your days. Or donate it to Trump and Musk

Why would anyone do this? With 5M you can either move to Thailand or Vietnam and live without working for the rest of your days. Or donate it to Trump and Musk and find yourself with zero dollars to your name and the right to be in a place where if you don't have money you are even more of a zero compared to other regular countries, matter of fact if in other countries people without money are zero, in the US they are 6 feet under (or on their way there given health policy)

sanswork 2y ago
Anyone paying $5m for a gold card will have a higher standard of living in the US than Thailand or Vietnam. Even if you make just a bit above the US average salary your life will be better in the US than Thailand at least. In Thailand from my experience living there it is great if you're broke/low income but actual luxuries are a premium to western countries. Why would you expect someone to be spending all their money on this? It's clearly for wealthy people. I'm Canadian/Australian so you can probably guess my opinions on Trump and the current US government but I don't have any problem with this type of program and most countries already have a similar one just at a lower price point(I think Canadas in like $2m in venture investing instead of a straight payment to the government but same difference).
- voidhorse 2y ago
  > Anyone paying $5m for a gold card will have a higher standard of living in the US than Thailand or Vietnam. not for long though, lol
  - sanswork 2y ago
    I have a feeling the QoL for the wealthy in America will stay pretty similar to today even if it drops off a cliff for everyone else
- lukas099 2y ago
  To me, the real luxury is labor, and I bet servants would be cheaper in Thailand than the US.
  - sanswork 2y ago
    If you're spending $5m on a visa you'll be able to afford similar services on both sides. A regular gardener, a regular cleaner and a laundry service are all affordable by the upper middle class in America let alone the rich. If you want full time live in servants that would obviously be different but the quality of life difference isn't going to be huge until you have a professionally trained and managed staff.
    - lukas099 2y ago
      I mean, yeah, full-time live-in servants would be fantastic.
lukas099 2y ago
Hmm. I'm just spitballing, but maybe as a path to U.S. citizenship in order to take advantage of more favorable tax codes and enforcement for the wealthy?
- sanswork 2y ago
  It'd be the opposite tax wise since the US is one of the free countries that taxes citizens globally
palata 2y ago
> Why would anyone do this? With 5M you can either move to Thailand or Vietnam and live without working for the rest of your days. But is it legal to make nazi salutes in Thailand or Vietnam?
- anovikov 2y ago
  In Thailand, sure it is legal! You can drive a BMW with a colourful swastika all over the hood and everyone is 100% fine with it. Communism is a no-no in Thailand, overt Nazism is fine.
mytailorisrich 2y ago
US or EU passports are very useful because they allow to travel to many countries visa-free. Malta in the EU also offers golden visas with straightforward route to citizenship and it attracts people who wants this and be able to have a place of adobe in a stable country.
tim333 2y ago
If you are a rich business person it may be handy for doing business in NYC or SV.

sanswork 2y ago

Anyone paying $5m for a gold card will have a higher standard of living in the US than Thailand or Vietnam. Even if you make just a bit above the US average salary your life will be better in the US than Thailand at least. In Thailand from my experience living there it is great if you're broke/low income but actual luxuries are a premium to western countries. Why would you expect someone to be spending all their money on this? It's clearly for wealthy people. I'm Canadian/Australian so you can probably guess my opinions on Trump and the current US government but I don't have any problem with this type of program and most countries already have a similar one just at a lower price point(I think Canadas in like $2m in venture investing instead of a straight payment to the government but same difference).

voidhorse 2y ago
> Anyone paying $5m for a gold card will have a higher standard of living in the US than Thailand or Vietnam. not for long though, lol
- sanswork 2y ago
  I have a feeling the QoL for the wealthy in America will stay pretty similar to today even if it drops off a cliff for everyone else
lukas099 2y ago
To me, the real luxury is labor, and I bet servants would be cheaper in Thailand than the US.
- sanswork 2y ago
  If you're spending $5m on a visa you'll be able to afford similar services on both sides. A regular gardener, a regular cleaner and a laundry service are all affordable by the upper middle class in America let alone the rich. If you want full time live in servants that would obviously be different but the quality of life difference isn't going to be huge until you have a professionally trained and managed staff.
  - lukas099 2y ago
    I mean, yeah, full-time live-in servants would be fantastic.

lukas099 2y ago

Hmm. I'm just spitballing, but maybe as a path to U.S. citizenship in order to take advantage of more favorable tax codes and enforcement for the wealthy?

sanswork 2y ago
It'd be the opposite tax wise since the US is one of the free countries that taxes citizens globally

palata 2y ago

> Why would anyone do this? With 5M you can either move to Thailand or Vietnam and live without working for the rest of your days. But is it legal to make nazi salutes in Thailand or Vietnam?

anovikov 2y ago
In Thailand, sure it is legal! You can drive a BMW with a colourful swastika all over the hood and everyone is 100% fine with it. Communism is a no-no in Thailand, overt Nazism is fine.

mytailorisrich 2y ago

US or EU passports are very useful because they allow to travel to many countries visa-free. Malta in the EU also offers golden visas with straightforward route to citizenship and it attracts people who wants this and be able to have a place of adobe in a stable country.

tim333 2y ago

If you are a rich business person it may be handy for doing business in NYC or SV.