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A Mac mini with an M4 Pro and 64GB of memory has the same bandwidth and costs £1,999, compared to £1,750 for the Framework Desktop when factoring in the minimum
by kingsleyopara 2y ago
A Mac mini with an M4 Pro and 64GB of memory has the same bandwidth and costs £1,999, compared to £1,750 for the Framework Desktop when factoring in the minimum costs for storage, tiles, and necessary expansion cards.
- sunshowers 2y agoTrue, but less RAM.
- kingsleyopara 2y agoOne thing to note on the more RAM: for the 128GB option, my understanding is that the GPU is limited to using only 96GB [1]. In contrast, on Macs, you can safely increase this to, for example, 116GB using `sysctl`. [1] https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amds-beastly-strix-halo-ryzen-ai-max-debuts-with-radical-new-memory-tech-to-feed-rdna-3-5-graphics-and-zen-5-cpu-cores https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/amds-beastly...
- adgjlsfhk1 2y agoOn linux, the gpu can go up to 110 GB.
- kingsleyopara 2y agoApologies, I stand corrected. Do you have a reference for this? I'm genuinely curious why the 96GB "limit" is so frequently cited - I assumed it must be a hardware limitation.
- watermelon0 2y agoIt's mentioned in LTT video: https://youtu.be/-lErGZZgUbY?t=126 https://youtu.be/-lErGZZgUbY?t=126 (video also features Framework's founder/CEO)
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- amstan 2y agoIt can go higher actually, just that when I setup my test devices I had a "ought to be enough for everyone" moment when typing `options amdgpu gttsize=110000`. I guess this number spread too far, heh. See also: [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_address_remapping_table https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_address_remapping_tab... [2] https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.19/gpu/amdgpu.html#:~:text=gttsize,-(int) https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.19/gpu/amdgpu.html#:~:tex...
- colingauvin 2y agoThat's a Windows limitation. On Linux it's 110GB.