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You remember that, because it was last Friday. It was also discussed in this article. Judges of different political persuasion are ruling differently on the sa

by timr 2y ago

You remember that, because it was last Friday. It was also discussed in this article. Judges of different political persuasion are ruling differently on the same issue (in different cases), and the headline is misleading -- the opinion of a single judge, pre-trial, is of low significance wrt the merits of the case itself. You could just as easily write a headline that "judges are split on US gov't violating privacy law", and it would be completely factual.

ranger_danger 2y ago
Most headlines seem to be extra-misleading these days, even from the left. I have not seen so much outrage lately over things that turn out to be meh, in a long time. Like that woman from the town meeting with the corrupt local sheriff, that was escorted out by 'unidentified' 'black shirt' security... nobody seemed to realize that she was already yelling at them on several occasions that night, was told to stop yelling, then kept doing it, and THAT is when they asked her to leave, and she still refused, prompting them to 'assault' her out of the building.
- lazide 2y ago
  The only thing that seems to get anyone to engage is ever increasing outrage. So, people are trying to increase outrage to get people to engage. If it’s worth engagement, or engagement does anything worthwhile? Or if people are getting away with things under the cover of all this outrage, because people are outraged out? Lost in the noise.
  - thwarted 2y ago
    I wonder if the ads are still visible when you're fuming with rage.
- veidr 2y ago
  I agree about the too-much-outrage-over-meh-shit problem, and even think it's the defining problem of our age (although, that is just because it is one form of "attention is the most important commodity now" theory — same root cause gives us new measles outbreaks and other self-owns). But, it is worth noting in this case that the conduct of these 'unidentified, black-shirt' security men was completely illegal in Coeur d’Alene, and subsequently the woman has had all charges against her dropped, while the security company, LEAR Asset Management, has had their license revoked for violating the law.[1] Those details do matter. [1]: https://cdapress.com/news/2025/feb/24/coeur-dalene-prosecutors-dismiss-citation-against-woman-dragged-from-town-hall-city-revokes-security-companys-business-license/ https://cdapress.com/news/2025/feb/24/coeur-dalene-prosecuto...
  - ranger_danger 2y ago
    Yes, I think failing to identify themselves is a big problem and they (security company) probably deserve what happened to them, I wasn't trying to imply that they did nothing wrong. And I'm not trying to victim blame either... but in this case I think indeed nothing bad would have happened if the woman's conduct was different... at the end of the day, everyone needs to be held accountable for their actions either way.

by timr 2y ago

ranger_danger 2y ago

Most headlines seem to be extra-misleading these days, even from the left. I have not seen so much outrage lately over things that turn out to be meh, in a long time. Like that woman from the town meeting with the corrupt local sheriff, that was escorted out by 'unidentified' 'black shirt' security... nobody seemed to realize that she was already yelling at them on several occasions that night, was told to stop yelling, then kept doing it, and THAT is when they asked her to leave, and she still refused, prompting them to 'assault' her out of the building.

lazide 2y ago
The only thing that seems to get anyone to engage is ever increasing outrage. So, people are trying to increase outrage to get people to engage. If it’s worth engagement, or engagement does anything worthwhile? Or if people are getting away with things under the cover of all this outrage, because people are outraged out? Lost in the noise.
- thwarted 2y ago
  I wonder if the ads are still visible when you're fuming with rage.
veidr 2y ago
I agree about the too-much-outrage-over-meh-shit problem, and even think it's the defining problem of our age (although, that is just because it is one form of "attention is the most important commodity now" theory — same root cause gives us new measles outbreaks and other self-owns). But, it is worth noting in this case that the conduct of these 'unidentified, black-shirt' security men was completely illegal in Coeur d’Alene, and subsequently the woman has had all charges against her dropped, while the security company, LEAR Asset Management, has had their license revoked for violating the law.[1] Those details do matter. [1]: https://cdapress.com/news/2025/feb/24/coeur-dalene-prosecutors-dismiss-citation-against-woman-dragged-from-town-hall-city-revokes-security-companys-business-license/ https://cdapress.com/news/2025/feb/24/coeur-dalene-prosecuto...
- ranger_danger 2y ago
  Yes, I think failing to identify themselves is a big problem and they (security company) probably deserve what happened to them, I wasn't trying to imply that they did nothing wrong. And I'm not trying to victim blame either... but in this case I think indeed nothing bad would have happened if the woman's conduct was different... at the end of the day, everyone needs to be held accountable for their actions either way.