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Kind of ironic that DeepSeek is more Open than ChatGPT

gostsamo 2y ago
They do it for their own reasons, but OpenAI are straight up liars and they are neither open nor give a fuck about humanity.
- chefandy 2y ago
  OpenAyyyyI swear babe I’m gonna open it up any day. Yeah for that grated good or whatever it is you keep yappin about.
- WiSaGaN 2y ago
  It would be hilarious if this scenario played out. OpenAI starts as a nonprofit, aiming to benefit all humanity. Eventually, they discover a path to AGI and engage in intense internal debates: Should they abandon their original mission and chase profit, knowing it could bring generational wealth? They ultimately decide, "To hell with humanity—let’s go for the money." As they pivot to prioritizing profit, DeepSeek emerges. Staying true to OpenAI’s original vision, DeepSeek open-sources everything, benefiting humanity and earning global admiration. Unintentionally, this move tanks OpenAI’s valuation. In the end, OpenAI fails to become the hero or secure the massive profits they chased. Instead, they leave behind a legacy rebranded as "ClosedAI"
  - ghfhghg 2y ago
    Admittedly I'm a sideline observer but it feels like the first half of your scenario is already happening (sans the agi).
  - yieldcrv 2y ago
    "I don't want to live in a world where someone else is making the world a better place better than we are" - Silicon Valley Season 2
- amelius 2y ago
  Well, they do give us a great free tool to use, but that's where it ends and probably has some agenda behind it.
azinman2 2y ago
Now. It’s amazing to me that everyone is like fuck OpenAI deepseek is the savior, when OpenAI’s papers and code jump started an AI revolution just a few years ago. Let’s wait the same number of years and see what deepseek does.
- gertop 2y ago
  I thought the papers that jump started the revolution came from Google?
  - jeffreygoesto 2y ago
    Hinton. And if you'd ask himself probably Schmidthuber.
  - larodi 2y ago
    Indeed. And the papers were about doing better translation of char sequences, essentially the tech emerged as linguistics improvement for language. Then someone realised the parrot learns enough ZIP and JPEG alongside and can spit back hazy memories of it all. the one still super useful thing OpenAI ever released must’ve been Whisper. But they could’ve been much more open for sure.
ur-whale 2y ago
> Kind of ironic that DeepSeek is more Open than ChatGPT Not ironic at all. You've simply be lied to by OpenAI. Nothing ironic about being naive.

They do it for their own reasons, but OpenAI are straight up liars and they are neither open nor give a fuck about humanity.

chefandy 2y ago
OpenAyyyyI swear babe I’m gonna open it up any day. Yeah for that grated good or whatever it is you keep yappin about.
WiSaGaN 2y ago
It would be hilarious if this scenario played out. OpenAI starts as a nonprofit, aiming to benefit all humanity. Eventually, they discover a path to AGI and engage in intense internal debates: Should they abandon their original mission and chase profit, knowing it could bring generational wealth? They ultimately decide, "To hell with humanity—let’s go for the money." As they pivot to prioritizing profit, DeepSeek emerges. Staying true to OpenAI’s original vision, DeepSeek open-sources everything, benefiting humanity and earning global admiration. Unintentionally, this move tanks OpenAI’s valuation. In the end, OpenAI fails to become the hero or secure the massive profits they chased. Instead, they leave behind a legacy rebranded as "ClosedAI"
- ghfhghg 2y ago
  Admittedly I'm a sideline observer but it feels like the first half of your scenario is already happening (sans the agi).
- yieldcrv 2y ago
  "I don't want to live in a world where someone else is making the world a better place better than we are" - Silicon Valley Season 2
amelius 2y ago
Well, they do give us a great free tool to use, but that's where it ends and probably has some agenda behind it.

azinman2 2y ago

Now. It’s amazing to me that everyone is like fuck OpenAI deepseek is the savior, when OpenAI’s papers and code jump started an AI revolution just a few years ago. Let’s wait the same number of years and see what deepseek does.

gertop 2y ago
I thought the papers that jump started the revolution came from Google?
- jeffreygoesto 2y ago
  Hinton. And if you'd ask himself probably Schmidthuber.
- larodi 2y ago
  Indeed. And the papers were about doing better translation of char sequences, essentially the tech emerged as linguistics improvement for language. Then someone realised the parrot learns enough ZIP and JPEG alongside and can spit back hazy memories of it all. the one still super useful thing OpenAI ever released must’ve been Whisper. But they could’ve been much more open for sure.

ur-whale 2y ago

> Kind of ironic that DeepSeek is more Open than ChatGPT Not ironic at all. You've simply be lied to by OpenAI. Nothing ironic about being naive.