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The Laravel developer ecosystem is unmatched.

• dismalaf 2y ago
  The Ruby on Rails community had stuff like this what, 18 years ago?
  • felipemesquita 2y ago
    Not really. While I prefer rails’ stance of “you can’t pay me for my open source”, laravel having a commercial model around developer tooling made them at least more responsive to their community’s dx wishes. Still, for me, having a fully open source first party tool like kamal is much better than a commercial offering, no matter how convenient it may be.
  • tnolet 2y ago
    That’s funny, because Rails is the one big framework that does not have a framework level hosting provider. Wordpress has it, Nextjs has it and now Laravel has it. There is no Rails equivalent.
    • dismalaf 2y ago
      Did you forget about Heroku? It started life as a Ruby and Rails hosting provider in what, 2007?
      • tnolet 2y ago
        Yeah, I’m very familiar with them. But they never really were a framework specific platform or at least did not go in that direction very long. Now they are explicitly a framework agnostic PaaS.
        • dismalaf 2y ago
          They were Ruby only for years... Like, we had Rails and could deploy to Heroku before Nodejs even existed...
        • butlike 2y ago
          It was strictly RoR for a long time
        • tonyhart7 2y ago
          being language or framework specific is not make sense either, do you rather have bussiness that tied to 1 framework userbase vs multiple framework supported platform???? like its no brainer
• zmxz 2y ago
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  • 1123581321 2y ago
    What is your calculation?
    • zmxz 2y ago
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  • jszymborski 2y ago
    > easily calculate whether this is true or not I don't know if I agree with GP but this is a subjective claim, no? You can pull out a bunch of metrics by which Laravel surpasses other frameworks, and some where they don't, but the call is going to either side by licking a thumb and sticking it in the air.
  • jppope 2y ago
    I'm not a php guy, or a MVC guy, or really anything in their ecosystem... but I will say Taylor Otwell and his team do an amazing job at their little slice of the developer world. Again, not my cup of tea but we need to give credit where credit is due, they are doing a great job. "unmatched" is hyperbole obv, but the sentiment is fair
  • TIPSIO 2y ago
    You are right that my comment could have been more helpful. My reply and point is Laravel has grown far beyond a simple PHP Framework. The entire ecosystem of various Laravel related tools can solve a majority of problems for developers and businesses.