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I would pay $500bn to get siri to distinguish between a 13 minute timer and a 30 minute timer.

brador 2y ago
The problem is AI current best use case is creative work, art, music, programming, but skilled creative professionals is a/the core userbase for Apple products. Apple is stuck and it’s AI will never be good enough until those creatives embrace it. Right now it’s disdain when mentioned.
- dartos 2y ago
  Uhh > The problem is AI current best use case is creative work, art, music, programming By “best” do you mean “marketable?” Seems weird to see a bunch of creatives and creative professionals “disdain” a tool and still say it’s “best” for them…
- troupo 2y ago
  An oft-cited quote goes something like this: "we wanted robots/AI to automate boring, routine, meaningless jobs to let people be free to pursue arts, music, creativity. It's a sad state of affairs that AI is taking over arts/music/creativity stranding people with boring, routine, meaningless jobs"
  - jamil7 2y ago
    > It's a sad state of affairs that AI is taking over arts/music/creativity stranding people with boring, routine, meaningless jobs" So far it’s not though.
    - troupo 2y ago
      Oh. It already is. Artists are already saying that a lot of commission work is drying out (e.g. illustrations).
- amelius 2y ago
  > skilled creative professionals is a/the core userbase for Apple products. Then why doesn't it have a professional CAD application?
  - dijit 2y ago
    It does. AutoCAD came to the Mac when Intel was shitting the bed (with aggressive OEM contracts for first party system integrators that prevented AMD adoption across HP/Dell/Lenovo-lines) and Windows 11 was being forced on users. WINTEL played the monopoly game too hard and is starting to lose ground. You love to see it.
  - daniel_reetz 2y ago
    Even Apple doesn't do CAD on OSX. They run Siemens NX on Windows. But your statement isn't quite right. Fusion 360 runs fine in mac. I'm ex-Apple btw.
    - amelius 2y ago
      Ok, that's good to know, but my colleagues all use SolidWorks so it doesn't change much for me.
- oldpersonintx 2y ago
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- jamil7 2y ago
  > The problem is AI current best use case is creative work, art, music, programming This is where it’s being pushed and marketed but I’m not actually sure it’s the best use case.
blitzar 2y ago
I am very resourceful so I got around this by setting a 14 minute timer to outsmart the Ai. "Your 40 minute timer starts now".
bqmjjx0kac 2y ago
I don't know if this is an actual problem you have, but since Siri appears to be composed of independent voice-to-text and text-to-action systems, you can say "start a one three minute timer".
newAccount2025 2y ago
I solve this by asking for a 31, 41, or 51 minute timer.
- jonwachob91 2y ago
  How does this help me se a 13, 14, or 15 minute timer?
  - hansvm 2y ago
    Could you ask to set a 780 second timer?
    - bombcar 2y ago
      You can, and it works.
  - addandsubtract 2y ago
    "10 minute timer" + "add 4 minutes"
boringg 2y ago
When I put in timers -- for some reason my timer frequently/randomly just sets to 79 hours and a random assortment of minutes and seconds. I have no clue why. I always have to double check otherwise I might be waiting awhile. It feels like it was a residual timer or something but I have never set anything like that - it is quite strange.
layer8 2y ago
Workarounds: 781 seconds timer, or 29/31 minute timer. I’m serious, that’s what I use.

The problem is AI current best use case is creative work, art, music, programming, but skilled creative professionals is a/the core userbase for Apple products. Apple is stuck and it’s AI will never be good enough until those creatives embrace it. Right now it’s disdain when mentioned.

dartos 2y ago
Uhh > The problem is AI current best use case is creative work, art, music, programming By “best” do you mean “marketable?” Seems weird to see a bunch of creatives and creative professionals “disdain” a tool and still say it’s “best” for them…
troupo 2y ago
An oft-cited quote goes something like this: "we wanted robots/AI to automate boring, routine, meaningless jobs to let people be free to pursue arts, music, creativity. It's a sad state of affairs that AI is taking over arts/music/creativity stranding people with boring, routine, meaningless jobs"
- jamil7 2y ago
  > It's a sad state of affairs that AI is taking over arts/music/creativity stranding people with boring, routine, meaningless jobs" So far it’s not though.
  - troupo 2y ago
    Oh. It already is. Artists are already saying that a lot of commission work is drying out (e.g. illustrations).
amelius 2y ago
> skilled creative professionals is a/the core userbase for Apple products. Then why doesn't it have a professional CAD application?
- dijit 2y ago
  It does. AutoCAD came to the Mac when Intel was shitting the bed (with aggressive OEM contracts for first party system integrators that prevented AMD adoption across HP/Dell/Lenovo-lines) and Windows 11 was being forced on users. WINTEL played the monopoly game too hard and is starting to lose ground. You love to see it.
- daniel_reetz 2y ago
  Even Apple doesn't do CAD on OSX. They run Siemens NX on Windows. But your statement isn't quite right. Fusion 360 runs fine in mac. I'm ex-Apple btw.
  - amelius 2y ago
    Ok, that's good to know, but my colleagues all use SolidWorks so it doesn't change much for me.
oldpersonintx 2y ago
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jamil7 2y ago
> The problem is AI current best use case is creative work, art, music, programming This is where it’s being pushed and marketed but I’m not actually sure it’s the best use case.

blitzar 2y ago

I am very resourceful so I got around this by setting a 14 minute timer to outsmart the Ai. "Your 40 minute timer starts now".

bqmjjx0kac 2y ago

I don't know if this is an actual problem you have, but since Siri appears to be composed of independent voice-to-text and text-to-action systems, you can say "start a one three minute timer".

newAccount2025 2y ago

I solve this by asking for a 31, 41, or 51 minute timer.

jonwachob91 2y ago
How does this help me se a 13, 14, or 15 minute timer?
- hansvm 2y ago
  Could you ask to set a 780 second timer?
  - bombcar 2y ago
    You can, and it works.
- addandsubtract 2y ago
  "10 minute timer" + "add 4 minutes"

boringg 2y ago

When I put in timers -- for some reason my timer frequently/randomly just sets to 79 hours and a random assortment of minutes and seconds. I have no clue why. I always have to double check otherwise I might be waiting awhile. It feels like it was a residual timer or something but I have never set anything like that - it is quite strange.

layer8 2y ago

Workarounds: 781 seconds timer, or 29/31 minute timer. I’m serious, that’s what I use.