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It isn't illegal for chinese companies to buy H100 cards. It is illegal for USA companies to sell them to China. So the "admit" part wouldn't be on Chinas side.

jofzar 2y ago
It's also totally legal to sell h100 cards to a country that is very close to China. Unrelated, it's always impressed me how Singapore buys 15% of the world's h100's. Really is the AI development capital of the world.
- xbmcuser 2y ago
  Not really Singapore is a trading hub a lot of multi national companies have regional offices or head offices in Singapore so if the head office buys anything for any where the purchase will show up as Singapore. Despite Nvidia showing such a large revenue from Singapore actual number of gpu shipped to Singapore is not that high. Not that some of the gpus are not going China but their is a valid reason for the Nvidia Singapore revenue numbers. https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/deepseek-gpu-smuggling-probe-shows-nvidias-singapore-gpu-sales-are-28-percent-of-its-revenue-but-only-1-percent-are-delivered-to-the-country-report https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/deepseek-gpu-smug...
- samvher 2y ago
  I can't tell if you're insinuating that Singapore is a pass-through for H100's heading towards China or whether there is some significant development taking place in Singapore that I'm unaware of?
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  - dist-epoch 2y ago
    > Singapore plays a vital role in Nvidia's global business, accounting for 22% of its revenue as of Q3 FY2025, up from 9% in Q3 FY2023 when the first significant restrictions on AI GPU sales to Chinese were introduced
    - _t9ow 2y ago
      I suggest that you read this comment, which explains why your quote is misleading: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43159362 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43159362
- janalsncm 2y ago
  It’s funny how this claim is able to make the rounds. I originally heard it here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_1f-o0nqpEI https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_1f-o0nqpEI Singapore is the billing location, not the shipping location, which makes sense because they’re the HQ of a lot of companies in the region.
amelius 2y ago
Also breaking the law to growth-hack happens all the time, see Uber.
- kridsdale1 2y ago
  And the British East India Company

jofzar 2y ago

It's also totally legal to sell h100 cards to a country that is very close to China. Unrelated, it's always impressed me how Singapore buys 15% of the world's h100's. Really is the AI development capital of the world.

xbmcuser 2y ago
Not really Singapore is a trading hub a lot of multi national companies have regional offices or head offices in Singapore so if the head office buys anything for any where the purchase will show up as Singapore. Despite Nvidia showing such a large revenue from Singapore actual number of gpu shipped to Singapore is not that high. Not that some of the gpus are not going China but their is a valid reason for the Nvidia Singapore revenue numbers. https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/deepseek-gpu-smuggling-probe-shows-nvidias-singapore-gpu-sales-are-28-percent-of-its-revenue-but-only-1-percent-are-delivered-to-the-country-report https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/deepseek-gpu-smug...
samvher 2y ago
I can't tell if you're insinuating that Singapore is a pass-through for H100's heading towards China or whether there is some significant development taking place in Singapore that I'm unaware of?
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- dist-epoch 2y ago
  > Singapore plays a vital role in Nvidia's global business, accounting for 22% of its revenue as of Q3 FY2025, up from 9% in Q3 FY2023 when the first significant restrictions on AI GPU sales to Chinese were introduced
  - _t9ow 2y ago
    I suggest that you read this comment, which explains why your quote is misleading: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43159362 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43159362
janalsncm 2y ago
It’s funny how this claim is able to make the rounds. I originally heard it here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_1f-o0nqpEI https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_1f-o0nqpEI Singapore is the billing location, not the shipping location, which makes sense because they’re the HQ of a lot of companies in the region.

amelius 2y ago

Also breaking the law to growth-hack happens all the time, see Uber.

kridsdale1 2y ago
And the British East India Company