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Meanwhile he admits that AI has generated no value so far in another interview: https://futurism.com/microsoft-ceo-ai-generating-no-value https://futurism.com/m

Meanwhile he admits that AI has generated no value so far in another interview: https://futurism.com/microsoft-ceo-ai-generating-no-value https://futurism.com/microsoft-ceo-ai-generating-no-value This article is a sales pitch, the one I'm linking is what all those CEOs really think.

riffraff 2y ago
It is the same interview mentioned in both TFA and your link. The two reports just chose to highlight different things, and TBH, neither seems to be hyping AI.
SpicyLemonZest 2y ago
Headlines are, unfortunately, often intentionally fabricated for clickbait purposes. Nadella clearly believes AI is valuable today and will become more so over time. What he actually said, as the text of the article describes, is that he's uninterested in chasing benchmark results because he thinks the real goal of AI should be growing the world GDP at a 10% annual rate.
- thefz 2y ago
  Why don't we try for once to grow happiness
  - SpicyLemonZest 2y ago
    GDP per capita is quite well correlated with happiness (https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/gdp-vs-happiness https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/gdp-vs-happiness). There’s reasonable concerns about microtargeting, but being able to afford expensive stuff solves quite a lot of the problems that make people unhappy.
- iLoveOncall 2y ago
  > he thinks the real goal of AI should be growing the world GDP at a 10% annual rate. Hum, no. He is saying the world GDP is currently growing at 10% annual rate, and for AI to have a value it would need to disrupt this and make it grow much faster. > Nadella clearly believes AI is valuable today Despite saying the exact contrary? I'd argue not a single tech CEO sees AI as valuable today. They just don't want to be left in the dust IF it ever becomes valuable.
  - chaos_emergent 2y ago
    That’s categorically false, world GDP is not growing at 10%. If it was, we’d be doubling the economy every 7 years. That’s a staggering rate of growth
    - iLoveOncall 2y ago
      I'm just quoting the example that Satya used in the interview. He just meant that AI should have a meaningful impact on overall GDP growth to be considered valuable, regardless of the actual current growth rate.
signatoremo 2y ago
> he admits that AI has generated no value so far He didn't admit that. From TFA: "Us self-claiming some [artificial general intelligence] milestone, that's just nonsensical benchmark hacking to me" He lamented the states of AI benchmarks, not that AI had generated no values. Further: "So, the first thing that we all have to do is, when we say this is like the Industrial Revolution, let's have that Industrial Revolution type of growth," He was saying the hype could only be justified when there was substantial return in terms of productivity. That doesn't mean AI has no values.

riffraff 2y ago

It is the same interview mentioned in both TFA and your link. The two reports just chose to highlight different things, and TBH, neither seems to be hyping AI.

SpicyLemonZest 2y ago

Headlines are, unfortunately, often intentionally fabricated for clickbait purposes. Nadella clearly believes AI is valuable today and will become more so over time. What he actually said, as the text of the article describes, is that he's uninterested in chasing benchmark results because he thinks the real goal of AI should be growing the world GDP at a 10% annual rate.

thefz 2y ago
Why don't we try for once to grow happiness
- SpicyLemonZest 2y ago
  GDP per capita is quite well correlated with happiness (https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/gdp-vs-happiness https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/gdp-vs-happiness). There’s reasonable concerns about microtargeting, but being able to afford expensive stuff solves quite a lot of the problems that make people unhappy.
iLoveOncall 2y ago
> he thinks the real goal of AI should be growing the world GDP at a 10% annual rate. Hum, no. He is saying the world GDP is currently growing at 10% annual rate, and for AI to have a value it would need to disrupt this and make it grow much faster. > Nadella clearly believes AI is valuable today Despite saying the exact contrary? I'd argue not a single tech CEO sees AI as valuable today. They just don't want to be left in the dust IF it ever becomes valuable.
- chaos_emergent 2y ago
  That’s categorically false, world GDP is not growing at 10%. If it was, we’d be doubling the economy every 7 years. That’s a staggering rate of growth
  - iLoveOncall 2y ago
    I'm just quoting the example that Satya used in the interview. He just meant that AI should have a meaningful impact on overall GDP growth to be considered valuable, regardless of the actual current growth rate.

signatoremo 2y ago

> he admits that AI has generated no value so far He didn't admit that. From TFA: "Us self-claiming some [artificial general intelligence] milestone, that's just nonsensical benchmark hacking to me" He lamented the states of AI benchmarks, not that AI had generated no values. Further: "So, the first thing that we all have to do is, when we say this is like the Industrial Revolution, let's have that Industrial Revolution type of growth," He was saying the hype could only be justified when there was substantial return in terms of productivity. That doesn't mean AI has no values.