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- dkjaudyeqooe 2y agoYou can still get an education, you just have to be rich.
- Gigachad 2y agoSo the number of educated people in the country drops
- rayiner 2y agoThe america that put a man on the moon had only 10% of adults with a college degree.
- gmm1990 2y agoDoge geniuses would have cut that 4% of the federal budget right before Apollo 11
- anon7000 2y agoIt’s an interesting question. Would doge suddenly have a change of heart if they were trying to compete with a serious enemy?
- johnnyanmac 2y agoGiven Trump's stances this week, I somehow think we've gone reverse red scare and would just work to spread communism in America. We're just so different from 50/60 years ago.
- TychoCelchuuu 2y ago[dead]
- wat10000 2y agoThe America that launched 158 rockets to orbit in one year and landed most of the boosters for reuse had a substantially higher rate.
- selimthegrim 2y agoSo, how was education doing in pre-1971 East Pakistan?
- johnnyanmac 2y agowe also had manufacturing jobs, strong unions, and a better minimum wage. We getting any of those back?
- jmclnx 2y agoTrue, but in the 40s, 50s and 60s, High School Courses were very close to undergrad courses now in the US. Back then, public schools were not afraid of failing students, plus hardly anyone in high school worked after school. Typically they work at summer jobs. Also if you dropped out at 16, you could find work at a living wage, not now.
- yongjik 2y agoOxford and ETH Zurich will be open for the rich, but Trumpists openly despise higher education, and I'm not sure whether any American universities will be safe if Trump stays in power for four years.
- wraaath 2y agoRIP US-based Academia INC In the immediate term, obviously the center of academic research moves to Europe/Asia, but the longer term damage is irreparable. Where is the 0-1 basic research that fundamentally moves the ball forward going to come from? Clearly not the US anymore.
- mlrtime 2y agoYou mean like Pitt's endowment of 5.8 Billion?
- rayiner 2y ago[flagged]
- monero-xmr 2y agoAnd America didn’t allow that for a long time. Obama attempted to cap indirect costs unsuccessfully. America also has what appears to be an unlimited tolerance for undergraduate tuition fully paid for by non-dischargeable debt. You’d be hard pressed to find another group in America with less sympathy than universities with the common man. Except perhaps government workers
- vkou 2y agoThat says more about the common man than it does about the institutions he hates, and it says nothing good about him.
- rayiner 2y agoThe common man is definitionally the one whose’a opinions matter. Maybe academics should become worthy of the respect of those who fund their activities.
- threecheese 2y agoSo we should make sure everyone feels represented? That’s not working very well.
- johnnyanmac 2y agoShould it? The common man didn't want women to vote 100 years ago (and didn't go to acedemia either). They didn't want minorities to be people (or I guess count as 60% of a person) 200 years ago. The common man could be wrong.
- monero-xmr 2y agoThe common man approved these changes, eventually. That’s democracy. Violating the will of the people now because they didn’t always agree with you is not democracy. You would much prefer to live in a monarchy or some form of feudalistic society if you would prefer to override the will of the people
- hsuduebc2 2y agoThey would in the end vote against you. You can't let that happen.
- CSMastermind 2y agoFranco and Stalin both increased University funding. Cuba to this day spends more of its GDP on education than any other nation on Earth. Syria (under Assad) spent more than South Korea, Afghanistan more than Greece, Iran more than the UK, Egypt more than Ireland, Iraq (under Sadam) more than Japan, Saudi Arabia more than Canada, etc. You can look it up, the more totalitarian the government the higher the spend on education not less. There's three big cohorts that heavily fund their University systems: 1. The Nordic States 2. Former British colonies 3. Dictatorships
- monero-xmr 2y agoChina doesn’t fund all of the bullshit research America does in the social sciences of dubious quality and reproducibility. I would love to axe everything that isn’t a hard science.
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- Loughla 2y agoYes. The only thing that contributes to society is science. That's why we have museums devoted exclusively to science and the study of science. It's why scientists tend to write great books about the human condition. Jesus Christ. Also. Define hard science please.
- monero-xmr 2y agoIt seems to me that wonderful books about philosophy and the human condition could be written without taxpayer funding, considering all of human knowledge is available at our fingertips
- foobarian 2y agoWhat if... the taxpayers would like such books to be written?
- johnnyanmac 2y agoWhy are we blaming Schools for using taxpayer funds and not the congress (or state govenor) who makes the budget? When did we celebrate shooting the messenger? Also, this is pretty selfish reasoning. I'm sure the manufacturing jobs feeding us would take a stance to defund science as well. It's just a bunch of nerds playing around in a lab. They aren't contributing to the country.
- tokioyoyo 2y agoThey have a whole fund for it called National Social Science Fund that funds non-STEM and alike research.
- fooker 2y agoGreat that you have invoked China. Guess what their research grant overhead is? 15-20%.
- johnnyanmac 2y agoSource?
- dang 2y ago"Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents." - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html These things lead to (very) low-quality threads, as seen below.