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This paper is silly. It asks the equivalent of "what if magic were true" (human-level AI) and answers with "the magic economy would be different." No kidding.

This paper is silly. It asks the equivalent of "what if magic were true" (human-level AI) and answers with "the magic economy would be different." No kidding. FWIW, the author is listed as a fellow of "The Forethought Foundation" [0], which is part of the Effective Altruism crowd[1], who have some cultish doomerism views around AI [2][3] There's a reason this stuff goes up on a non-peer reviewed paper mill. -- [0] https://www.forethought.org/the-2022-cohort https://www.forethought.org/the-2022-cohort [1] https://www.forethought.org/about-us https://www.forethought.org/about-us [2] https://reason.com/2024/07/05/the-authoritarian-side-of-effective-altruism-comes-for-ai/ https://reason.com/2024/07/05/the-authoritarian-side-of-effe... [3] https://www.techdirt.com/2024/04/29/effective-altruisms-bait-and-switch-from-global-poverty-to-ai-doomerism/ https://www.techdirt.com/2024/04/29/effective-altruisms-bait...

krona 2y ago
The entire philosophy of existential risk is based on a collection of absurd hypotheticals. Follow the money.
0xDEAFBEAD 2y ago
>It asks the equivalent of "what if magic were true" (human-level AI) and answers with "the magic economy would be different." No kidding. Isn't developing AGI basically the mission of OpenAI et al? What's so bad about considering what will happen if they achieve their mission? >who have some cultish doomerism views around AI [2][3] Check the signatories on this statement: https://www.safe.ai/work/statement-on-ai-risk https://www.safe.ai/work/statement-on-ai-risk
- habinero 2y ago
  The same reason why there's not hundreds of papers about the benefits of Dyson spheres: without any ability to execute, it's just speculative science fiction. And yes, that link is exactly the behavior I'm talking about. It makes it sound like it's a top issue for all these people. Most of them work at EA-related places, but I spot-checked (really, I did) five people who worked in CS research but not at an EA company. I couldn't find any other public statements that they thought AI was that important. Do they know their names are on this page? Appeal to authority is a classic cult/fraud/misinformation/conspiracist tactic. If it says "so-and-so believes this" and not "so-and-so believes this and here's why", it's suspect.
  - HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
    The US federal government said only two days that they want literal autonomous killer robots, and multiple robotics organizations are quickly making it happen. Weapons used in Ukraine are already more or less autonomous. MG turrets that auto target infantry. Kamikaze drones that track and kill individual troops without a VR pilot. This isn't science fiction.

krona 2y ago

The entire philosophy of existential risk is based on a collection of absurd hypotheticals. Follow the money.

0xDEAFBEAD 2y ago

>It asks the equivalent of "what if magic were true" (human-level AI) and answers with "the magic economy would be different." No kidding. Isn't developing AGI basically the mission of OpenAI et al? What's so bad about considering what will happen if they achieve their mission? >who have some cultish doomerism views around AI [2][3] Check the signatories on this statement: https://www.safe.ai/work/statement-on-ai-risk https://www.safe.ai/work/statement-on-ai-risk

habinero 2y ago
The same reason why there's not hundreds of papers about the benefits of Dyson spheres: without any ability to execute, it's just speculative science fiction. And yes, that link is exactly the behavior I'm talking about. It makes it sound like it's a top issue for all these people. Most of them work at EA-related places, but I spot-checked (really, I did) five people who worked in CS research but not at an EA company. I couldn't find any other public statements that they thought AI was that important. Do they know their names are on this page? Appeal to authority is a classic cult/fraud/misinformation/conspiracist tactic. If it says "so-and-so believes this" and not "so-and-so believes this and here's why", it's suspect.
- HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
  The US federal government said only two days that they want literal autonomous killer robots, and multiple robotics organizations are quickly making it happen. Weapons used in Ukraine are already more or less autonomous. MG turrets that auto target infantry. Kamikaze drones that track and kill individual troops without a VR pilot. This isn't science fiction.