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Are you even aware that Apple is only releasing this in the first place to prove that Apple didn't copy design from the Sony Style, which is identical to the iP

Are you even aware that Apple is only releasing this in the first place to prove that Apple didn't copy design from the Sony Style, which is identical to the iPhone but older?

Cushman 14y ago
Depends. Are you talking about the SONY-branded "Sony-style" prototype produced at Apple in response to Sony's redesigned Walkman? (Which, so we're clear, did not look like any Sony phone on the market at the time?)
- vibrunazo 14y ago
  “Apple’s ‘iconic’ iPhone was conceived as part of a study of Sony designs that was ordered by Apple executives,” Samsung said in the filing. - http://allthingsd.com/20120729/samsung-makes-another-case-to-have-apples-sony-style-put-before-jury/ http://allthingsd.com/20120729/samsung-makes-another-case-to...
  - Cushman 14y ago
    Right. Did you see the part where Apple produced a "Sony-style" mockup[0], complete with SONY branding, that most resembles the iPhone 4? There was never a Sony Style. [0] http://boingboing.net/2012/07/27/early-iphone-mockups-show-sony.html http://boingboing.net/2012/07/27/early-iphone-mockups-show-s...
    - pbhjpbhj 14y ago
      Isn't the point though that this makes it derivative of Sony's design.
      - Cushman 14y ago
        That would be Samsung's claim, and thus the release of other, earlier mockups from Apple which more closely resemble the eventual iPhone. And again, Samsung's claim is based on an interview with a Sony designer about a product[0] which looked nothing like an iPhone, which inspired Apple to produce one mockup merging one of their existing designs with Sony design elements. It is not based on any Sony product. Despite what I've been saying here, I'm not an Apple partisan, but come on-- this is totally ridiculous. [0] This thing, I believe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Ericsson_W950 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Ericsson_W950
      - wmf 14y ago
        So the iPhone is a derivate of Sony's design philosophy and the Galaxy S is still a derivative of the iPhone, not Sony or 2001.
schraeds 14y ago
I love Samsung's defense, "We didn't copy Apple, we copied Sony!". People are so butthurt about Apple and conversely, design and quality being the most successful, they can't respect true innovation when they see it.

Are you even aware that Apple is only releasing this in the first place to prove that Apple didn't copy design from the Sony Style, which is identical to the iPhone but older?

Cushman 14y ago

Depends. Are you talking about the SONY-branded "Sony-style" prototype produced at Apple in response to Sony's redesigned Walkman? (Which, so we're clear, did not look like any Sony phone on the market at the time?)

vibrunazo 14y ago
“Apple’s ‘iconic’ iPhone was conceived as part of a study of Sony designs that was ordered by Apple executives,” Samsung said in the filing. - http://allthingsd.com/20120729/samsung-makes-another-case-to-have-apples-sony-style-put-before-jury/ http://allthingsd.com/20120729/samsung-makes-another-case-to...
- Cushman 14y ago
  Right. Did you see the part where Apple produced a "Sony-style" mockup[0], complete with SONY branding, that most resembles the iPhone 4? There was never a Sony Style. [0] http://boingboing.net/2012/07/27/early-iphone-mockups-show-sony.html http://boingboing.net/2012/07/27/early-iphone-mockups-show-s...
  - pbhjpbhj 14y ago
    Isn't the point though that this makes it derivative of Sony's design.
    - Cushman 14y ago
      That would be Samsung's claim, and thus the release of other, earlier mockups from Apple which more closely resemble the eventual iPhone. And again, Samsung's claim is based on an interview with a Sony designer about a product[0] which looked nothing like an iPhone, which inspired Apple to produce one mockup merging one of their existing designs with Sony design elements. It is not based on any Sony product. Despite what I've been saying here, I'm not an Apple partisan, but come on-- this is totally ridiculous. [0] This thing, I believe: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Ericsson_W950 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_Ericsson_W950
    - wmf 14y ago
      So the iPhone is a derivate of Sony's design philosophy and the Galaxy S is still a derivative of the iPhone, not Sony or 2001.

schraeds 14y ago

I love Samsung's defense, "We didn't copy Apple, we copied Sony!". People are so butthurt about Apple and conversely, design and quality being the most successful, they can't respect true innovation when they see it.