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In addition to everything else, also love how a bed with the express purpose to increase sleep quality requires you to open your phone every time you want to ad
by xg15 2y ago
In addition to everything else, also love how a bed with the express purpose to increase sleep quality requires you to open your phone every time you want to adjust a setting.
- cthalupa 2y agoThe newer models have a touch control panel on the side. Different taps to adjust settings. Not that this ameliorates all the other issues here.
- hinkley 2y agoI’m still fairly upset that ambient devices never really took off. Nanoleaf at least made a remote like this. It’s a dodecahedron with an accelerometer, so you can program each face with a different setting. The simplest being to program opposing faces for two different light levels. You want to take a nap, turn the controller upside down.
- kevindamm 2y agoI like this idea, now I want to make one of those. Even a two- or six-sided one would be useful, and I can print different enclosures and reprogram the feather or ESP if I want to add sides.
- hinkley 2y agoI don’t think they sell it anymore, but I forgot it’s actually a HomeKit controller, so you could (try) to use it to control several devices at once. Since only one face is up at a time you would have to gang the behaviors, such as turning off several lights or turning them on. Old CNet article: https://www.cnet.com/reviews/nanoleaf-remote-review/ https://www.cnet.com/reviews/nanoleaf-remote-review/
- kolektiv 2y agoSee my comment to a sibling: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43132279 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43132279 - there's a few simple little functional objects out there which make this kind of process quite easy.
- HeyLaughingBoy 2y agoWow. I love that UI concept!
- mrWiz 2y agoI've got a cube that's hooked into my Home Assistant setup that works similarly. Flipping the cube upside down turns my bedside light on or off, rotating it clockwise increases the brightness, and counterclockwise decreases it.
- lblume 2y agoHow exactly does it communicate these changes, if I might ask?
- Tyr42 2y agoCheck out the zigbee2mqtt page for the cube https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/MFKZQ01LM.html https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/MFKZQ01LM.html
- kolektiv 2y agoI did something similar using these: https://eu.aqara.com/products/aqara-cube-t1-pro https://eu.aqara.com/products/aqara-cube-t1-pro (or rather, an earlier iteration). Just Zigbee, nothing too complex, and then you hook it into something which knows how to interpret the events it sends (or events + current state if you want it to be a little more contextually smart). I generally tried to centralise the smarts, dumb devices and a smart interpreter always worked out more robust than clever devices. It's amazing how many combinations of actions you can indicate just by shaking/tapping/turning/flipping - more than enough to do the things you commonly do with one actuator (a light or set of lights for example).
- hinkley 2y agoOne that comes to mind is: flip over to turn on/off, flip over and back again to randomize (like a snow globe).
- mrWiz 2y agokolektiv's parallel comment explains it perfectly.
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- Freak_NL 2y agoSounds good until you come home to a house flashing like a Christmas tree because your kid needed another D12 for their table-top role-playing game.
- burnished 2y agoYou see a bug, I see a feature
- stavros 2y agoThere are a bunch of Zigbee switches, rockers, etc (including the Aqara cube people mentioned) that you can use as rich controls.
- KPGv2 2y agoThere was a cool device I saw once, used for timing your work. You'd program the faces for different tasks (bug fixes, new features, etc.) and whatever you worked on, you'd have that face up, and when you changed tasks, you'd turn it to something else, and it would track how you spent your time.
- yeshellohi 2y agoYou’re probably thinking about Timeular? A neat device but like the 8Sleep also tied to a monthly subscription which is why I stopped using it :’)
- KPGv2 2y agoNo, it was dodecahedral or octahedral, I can't remember. I just vaguely recall it looked like a Platonic solid. I don't remember it having a subscription. I think it just communicated with BT to your laptop or something? Might've just been a kickstarter that didn't get funding.
- BobaFloutist 2y agoThat sounds cool, but I'm a little resistant to being asked to remember to charge my lightswitch.
- gpm 2y agoCould maybe be made low enough power that it can power itself via ambient light (like an old school calculator) or radio waves.
- BobaFloutist 2y agoThat would be cool, but I haven't actually seen it in anything other than an old school calculator so I assume the limitations are pretty significant.
- wiml 2y agoI've seen energy-harvesting remote light switches for sale — they supposedly get enough energy from the physical act of flipping the toggle to send a few radio packets. I haven't used one in the real world though.
- eternauta3k 2y agoSome of the ones at my company require you to stab them with your fingers for 15 seconds like a maniac before they turn the light on.
- hinkley 2y agoThat's unfortunately a big part of why mine is dead. The batteries are hard to get to. Also their iOS app is frustrating to use.
- connicpu 2y agoI agree with this so much. Opening an app is the last thing I want to do to adjust something while I'm in bed. I have a zigbee lightswitch so I can turn the light off from bed, and sure I could open an app to do that, but it's so much better to get a zigbee button and stick it to the wall above my head and program it to control the lightswitch. Unlike all the cloud garbage, my zigbee devices continue to function even when the internet is down. I have my zigbee hub (Home Assistant Yellow) on a battery backup, so all the zigbee devices with a battery keep functioning even when the power is out (like my automatic cat feeders)
- mvanbaak 2y agoTotally agree. I got a philips hue dimmer switch for next to the bed. One of the best things I got for the home automation. Just click it and everything in the house goes into night mode. no phone needed.
- westmeal 2y agoMy room mate had one of these and I found out there was a script online someone put together on github I think to control it over a shell. Was hilarious because I kept turning off their light at weird times.
- connicpu 2y agoYikes, does the hub have some kind of unauthenticated http server exposed to the LAN? Yet another reason I run open source software rather than buying the proprietary hubs.
- palmotea 2y ago> In addition to everything else, also love how a bed with the express purpose to increase sleep quality requires you to open your phone every time you want to adjust a setting. Don't worry, they'll repeat over and over how their product was thoughtfully designed with exquisite craftsmanship by the re-animated corpse of Johnny Ive [1] until people believe it's true. [1] I know he's not dead. Also... > ... Essentially all you need to do is unplug the rubber tubing from the Eight Sleep cover, which is available on eBay for a few hundred bucks, and plug it into a $150 aquarium chiller. > That’s it. Aquarium chillers are somewhat of a misnomer, as they can also provide heat. They use thermoelectric devices to regulate temperature, either cooling or warming the liquid that flows through them, which is the same technology found in eight sleep. How much do you want to bet the Eight Sleep is literally an off-the-shelf Chinese Aquarium chiller in a custom case marked up 15x, with a shitily-programmed computer bolted on to enable a $20/month subscription?
- geodel 2y agoI mean this comment is slightly disconcerting to next generation of brilliant hackers sleeping on this bed and dreaming big of a Cloud controlled Toilet Paper Dispenser, Effececy®. It will always give right amount of paper based of amount and moisture content of just delivered product.
- 0_____0 2y agoI rolled my own solution to this using a Boston Dynamics Spot (2nd gen). With the structured light scanner, YOLO v5 for classification, and a custom IK solver (BD's is too hard for me), I can just lay back like a baby once I'm finished and Spot takes care of everything.
- collingreen 2y agoThis is a super funny idea if it works (in theory; I get it's a joke) and a SUPER funny idea if it malfunctions in particular ways.
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- mohaine 2y agoAnd not true, at least for the newest version. V4 has touch sensors for adjusting the temps on the side of the mattress. I do own of these and while I hate the price, the subscription, the fact that it didn't work for an hour last night due to the internet being down (first time ever really) but there really isn't a better option. I love the temp control and would use anyone else if they had a valid competitor, but sadly there isn't one (or at least wasn't when I bought mine). The alternative is to not have temp control which is pretty amazing.
- geodel 2y agoI mean while you are opening your phone you might as well check latest savings by DOGE, wouldn't it help you sleep even more safe and sound?
- lostlogin 2y agoWhat DOGE say they have saved, what has been saved, and how that looks in 5-10 years time are all very different answers. Maybe there needs to be a red answer and a blue answer?
- knallfrosch 2y agoYou can buy the new 3249€ Pod4: "Control without a phone" https://www.eightsleep.com/eu/product/pod-cover/ https://www.eightsleep.com/eu/product/pod-cover/