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The ideal outcome is that government fails, then they can point at the failing government and ask, why do we want to pay for something that is failing.

zdw 2y ago
This - it's basically meme of the guy shooting the person behind him in the chair and then being incredulous.
nozzlegear 2y ago
What's their plan after that though? Privatization, I guess?
- saulpw 2y ago
  Ever read Snowcrash?
  - danielodievich 2y ago
    Yeah, their vision is us living in burbclaves of New South Africa, Mr Lee's Hong Kong and Reverend Wayne's Pearly Gates and the bankrupt US Government with trillion dollar notes not to be used as toilet paper because it is illegal and clogs the plumbing.
  - marviel 2y ago
    so glad someone else sees this.
  - nozzlegear 2y ago
    I haven't, not yet anyway. I did read Termination Shock by the same author, though. I loved it, and promptly added Snowcrash to my TBR list.
- hooverd 2y ago
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  - kadoban 2y ago
    That's partly because they like Hitler quite a lot though.
- evan_ 2y ago
  They don't care, they'll be fine.
- themagician 2y ago
  When you are Elon, or Trump, or even a moderately succesful business… all the government does (or at least what you perceive) is tell you no. You can't dump that here, you can't build that there, you can't fire that person for that reason, you can't do that without a permit, etc.. They just want to clear all the roadblocks out of the way for their PERSONAL gains. Get rid of the government and you can do whatever you want. That is what they want. These are people who feel they have "won" the game of capitalism, and were still told, "No." That greatly upset them. How can a winner be told they can't do something?
  - hattmall 2y ago
    There's thousands of homeless and underhoused people all over the US for the same exact reasons so you don't have to be rich to feel the effects of government telling you no.
    - watwut 2y ago
      Somehow countries with bigger governmental social systems have less homelessness. You know, goverment said no to the robosigning of fraudulent evictions, no to the predatory loans ...
  - ashoeafoot 2y ago
    All the body does is limit cell growth for cells with potential! What has the body ever done for thee?
  - hattmall 2y ago
    There's thousands of homeless and underhoused people all over the US for the same exact reasons so you don't have to be rich to feel the effects of government telling you no. Didn't used to be that way at all. My grandfather built his own house ~70 years ago with his brother from trees they cut down on the property and set it on blocks. He lived in for 60+ years and it's still standing. It's a house I could buy and live in right now. But I can't just build a much better house with modern materials and live in it without an egregious amount of site work. It's so dumb it's gotten to the point that there is intense competition for the most rundown house that's already utility connected so you can tear it down and replace it piece by piece to avoid all the ridiculous new rules. It's only feasible to build either million dollar+ homes or jank-station multi-families where you hear your neighbors toilets flush.
- wahnfrieden 2y ago
  Network states per Yarvin. Each ruled by a corporation with CEO. With a caste system for cheap labor vs "citizens"
- jrs235 2y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RpPTRcz1no https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RpPTRcz1no
- polski-g 2y ago
  There was a new EO recently that required all new hires to be approved by DOGE. So the goal would be to bring back something like the CSC had (which was essentially IQ filters for a job). Then the per employee productivity would increase in the government. Government employees are unbelievably unimpressive, and it started in 1978 with the abolition of the CSC.
y33t 2y ago
Related: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starve_the_beast https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starve_the_beast
- Aloisius 2y ago
  This was a reckless plan. If you want people to get onboard with spending cuts, you should raise taxes high enough to actually pay for all the spending so taxpayers feel the consequences of it. Reducing revenues and letting people run up the credit card for decades instead, as an intentional strategy, was beyond irresponsible.
  - avidiax 2y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jude_Wanniski#The_Two_Santa_Claus_Theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jude_Wanniski#The_Two_Santa_Cl... They've known for a long time that they can't cut spending. It will be terribly unpopular. So they cut taxes (especially on the rich) which keeps tax pressure on everyone else, but gets them wealthy donors. Then the opposition has three choices: play chicken with the national debt, cut spending, or raise taxes. Usually raising the national debt is the easiest option.

zdw 2y ago

This - it's basically meme of the guy shooting the person behind him in the chair and then being incredulous.

nozzlegear 2y ago

What's their plan after that though? Privatization, I guess?

saulpw 2y ago
Ever read Snowcrash?
- danielodievich 2y ago
  Yeah, their vision is us living in burbclaves of New South Africa, Mr Lee's Hong Kong and Reverend Wayne's Pearly Gates and the bankrupt US Government with trillion dollar notes not to be used as toilet paper because it is illegal and clogs the plumbing.
- marviel 2y ago
  so glad someone else sees this.
- nozzlegear 2y ago
  I haven't, not yet anyway. I did read Termination Shock by the same author, though. I loved it, and promptly added Snowcrash to my TBR list.
hooverd 2y ago
[flagged]
- kadoban 2y ago
  That's partly because they like Hitler quite a lot though.
evan_ 2y ago
They don't care, they'll be fine.
themagician 2y ago
When you are Elon, or Trump, or even a moderately succesful business… all the government does (or at least what you perceive) is tell you no. You can't dump that here, you can't build that there, you can't fire that person for that reason, you can't do that without a permit, etc.. They just want to clear all the roadblocks out of the way for their PERSONAL gains. Get rid of the government and you can do whatever you want. That is what they want. These are people who feel they have "won" the game of capitalism, and were still told, "No." That greatly upset them. How can a winner be told they can't do something?
- hattmall 2y ago
  There's thousands of homeless and underhoused people all over the US for the same exact reasons so you don't have to be rich to feel the effects of government telling you no.
  - watwut 2y ago
    Somehow countries with bigger governmental social systems have less homelessness. You know, goverment said no to the robosigning of fraudulent evictions, no to the predatory loans ...
- ashoeafoot 2y ago
  All the body does is limit cell growth for cells with potential! What has the body ever done for thee?
- hattmall 2y ago
  There's thousands of homeless and underhoused people all over the US for the same exact reasons so you don't have to be rich to feel the effects of government telling you no. Didn't used to be that way at all. My grandfather built his own house ~70 years ago with his brother from trees they cut down on the property and set it on blocks. He lived in for 60+ years and it's still standing. It's a house I could buy and live in right now. But I can't just build a much better house with modern materials and live in it without an egregious amount of site work. It's so dumb it's gotten to the point that there is intense competition for the most rundown house that's already utility connected so you can tear it down and replace it piece by piece to avoid all the ridiculous new rules. It's only feasible to build either million dollar+ homes or jank-station multi-families where you hear your neighbors toilets flush.
wahnfrieden 2y ago
Network states per Yarvin. Each ruled by a corporation with CEO. With a caste system for cheap labor vs "citizens"
jrs235 2y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RpPTRcz1no https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RpPTRcz1no
polski-g 2y ago
There was a new EO recently that required all new hires to be approved by DOGE. So the goal would be to bring back something like the CSC had (which was essentially IQ filters for a job). Then the per employee productivity would increase in the government. Government employees are unbelievably unimpressive, and it started in 1978 with the abolition of the CSC.

y33t 2y ago

Related: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starve_the_beast https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starve_the_beast

Aloisius 2y ago
This was a reckless plan. If you want people to get onboard with spending cuts, you should raise taxes high enough to actually pay for all the spending so taxpayers feel the consequences of it. Reducing revenues and letting people run up the credit card for decades instead, as an intentional strategy, was beyond irresponsible.
- avidiax 2y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jude_Wanniski#The_Two_Santa_Claus_Theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jude_Wanniski#The_Two_Santa_Cl... They've known for a long time that they can't cut spending. It will be terribly unpopular. So they cut taxes (especially on the rich) which keeps tax pressure on everyone else, but gets them wealthy donors. Then the opposition has three choices: play chicken with the national debt, cut spending, or raise taxes. Usually raising the national debt is the easiest option.