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Petition to Remove the Canadian Government from Twitter
- VincentEvans 2y ago[flagged]
- aaronbrethorst 2y agoYou should share a few examples.
- VincentEvans 2y agoOf what? This? https://x.com/repaoc https://x.com/repaoc … and near entirety of democratic congress? I mean is my claim really so weak it needs evidence to support it? Its not an easily observable phenomenon?
- slater 2y agohttps://bsky.app/profile/aoc.bsky.social https://bsky.app/profile/aoc.bsky.social
- VincentEvans 2y agoIs this intended to disprove my point? Would a link to aoc’s profile on livejournal or tumbler accomplish that too?
- aaronbrethorst 2y agoShrug. Pete Buttigieg went on Fox News all the time over the past 5-6 years even though I thought and think they’re propagandists and a threat to our country. I think his rationale for doing it was sensible.
- VincentEvans 2y agoI agree with what Buttigieg is doing, but I don’t think it's the same at all - coming to a hostile interview requires that overcoming adversity and displaying certain bravery. To continue having an account on twitter really doesn’t. I would even say it’s quite the opposite - to abandon your lived-in account and all its followers on a network that serves financial interests of your opponents - would actually be a more principled stand.
- dialup_sounds 2y agoDefine "what musk stands for".
- VincentEvans 2y agoYou define it?
- dialup_sounds 2y agoI'm asking what you meant by the words you used. For me to answer that for you would be putting words in your mouth, which I do not want to do.
- VincentEvans 2y agoInvited you to state what musk stands for in your opinion, not to attempt to speak for me.
- dialup_sounds 2y agoIf I believed I knew what Musk stands for, why would I have asked you to define it? If you don't know either, that's fine.
- jmclnx 2y agoFingers crossed Canada does the right thing and dump twitter
- nisten 2y agoAlmost the entire machine learning community that publishes opensource medical datasets and models... amongst other things, is on twitter. This all feels more emotionally motivated than logically motivated. I.e. Instead of fighting kremlin trolls and helping fact check via community notes (which has been quite effective), they're gonna let it all get worse because they're mad at the owner.
- ether_at_cpan 2y agoTwitter's not fixing the problem -- how can its users? The only logical move is not to play.
- nobankai 2y agoCommunity Notes are not long for this world, and even if they were it wouldn't fix a thing: https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-says-hell-fix-community-notes-on-x-after-it-disagreed-with-him-2000566212 https://gizmodo.com/elon-musk-says-hell-fix-community-notes-... There is no Twitter anymore. Not even a smoldering wreck where it used to stand.
- toomuchtodo 2y agoThe owner is the problem. The only option is to leave (edit: just as you would any other controlling abuser).
- markovs_gun 2y agoThe owner is part of a regime that is actively threatening Canadian sovereignty, so I think it's fair for them to do things "because they're mad at the owner"
- minimaxir 2y ago> Almost the entire machine learning community that publishes opensource medical datasets and models... amongst other things, is on twitter. More due to the inertia of network effects rather than inherent merit.
- soco 2y ago
- Acrobatic_Road 2y agoHow about just "Petition to Remove the Canadian Government"?
- JohnnyLarue 2y agoThis will not happen until Twitter loses its reach. Getting the word out in an emergency is far, far more important than potentially legitimizing a white supremacist platform.
- krapp 2y agoGovernment have ways of getting the word out besides Twitter. It isn't necessary, it's just convenient because it doesn't require budgeting.
- adamiscool8 2y ago>the government's continued use of X legitimises and directs traffic to a platform that no longer prioritises fact-based, accessible public communication. What does this mean exactly? There's no indication the Government of Canada's profile on X will stop showing their own messages. Granted, they might find themselves Community Noted, since the Canadian government (NB: any government, really) can also be prone to amplifying misinformation, conspiracy theories, and harmful rhetoric. But they want Canadians to believe a new community-regulated platform, prioritizing accuracy and safety - as defined by people throwing tantrums at the mere possibility of diverse perspectives - is going to be more reliable, accountable, and accessible? Peak performative nonsense. And I expect no less than several million signatures.
- 3vidence 2y agoSo TikTok gets banned in the US for abstract potential influence on topics related to China and most Americans sign off on it. Twitter is being actively manipulated by a person who has expressed interest in the elimination of the independence of Canada and people think this is an overreaction??
- blackeyeblitzar 2y agoTikTok is secretly manipulated by the CCP, and requires US based executives to sign oaths to uphold their propaganda: https://dailycaller.com/2025/01/14/tiktok-forced-staff-oaths-china-socialist-system-court-documents/ https://dailycaller.com/2025/01/14/tiktok-forced-staff-oaths... Twitter is not being “actively manipulated”. It is probably the least manipulated platform, considering the extreme censorship that was normalized on Twitter, facebook, reddit, etc. Twitter is the closest to neutral and free speech. So yes this is an overreaction.
- 3vidence 2y agoSometimes I really wonder what reality people live in... Elon musk quite literally bans topics and terms that he doesn't like on a whim. There's a rather lengthy account of all it here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_under_Elon_Musk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twitter_under_Elon_Musk Even if we buy into the premises that Elon doesn't manipulate Twitter, he actively posts about removal of Canada's sovereignty. If the CEO of ByteDance was actively posting TikToks saying he is so excited for the US to be China's new province what would the US do?
- drivingmenuts 2y agoConsidering that X is owned and operated by an agent of a government that has threatened Canada, seems like a good reason to me. That same person actively supports Neo-Nazis in Europe, which makes it an imperative. Actually, at this point, most of the EU governments should probably drop Twitter.
- lucasyvas 2y agoX is the first domain in my life that I legitimately believe needs to be blocked by remaining democratic nations. Alternatives exist.
- blackeyeblitzar 2y ago> X is the first domain in my life that I legitimately believe needs to be blocked by remaining democratic nations. Amazing that removing censorship causes you to have this reaction. That’s not really in line with democracy, because democracy requires free speech, and Twitter is the best platform for it.
- lucasyvas 2y agoModeration is different than censorship. But a smart person would have known that. Hacker News is moderated, didn’t you know? Guess we should swap it out for a cesspool as well by your logic. Community Notes will be censored by the way coming soon. Didn’t you hear? Might want to read a bit before you make bold claims.
- blackeyeblitzar 2y agoA smart person would admit that moderation is most commonly used by social media platforms as a euphemism for obvious censorship and suppression of political opposition. Grouping HN’s light approach with what old Twitter, TikTok, Reddit, and the rest do isn’t reasonable.
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- tombert 2y agoDude, "pedosky"? Come on, grow the fuck up. I know your Diablo-cheating hero called it pedosky, and it was childish when he did it, and it's childish when you do it.
- JohnTHaller 2y agoAh yes, the neutral platform that literally censored the word cisgender based on the bigotry of the owner.