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By banning "abortion" they've prevented doctors from providing adequate care for miscarriages. Politicians on the so-called "pro-life" side of this debate are

By banning "abortion" they've prevented doctors from providing adequate care for miscarriages. Politicians on the so-called "pro-life" side of this debate are stridently opposed to looking for a middle ground. Those excess deaths are entirely avoidable and utterly tragic. To the "pro-life" crowd, these deaths are collateral damage in a culture war. Death isn't the only extremely predictable (as in, we literally told you so) outcome, women who want to have children are being rendered infertile as a consequence of delaying treatment of miscarriages until death is an imminent risk.

criddell 2y ago
> they've prevented doctors from providing adequate care for miscarriages When this started happening, I expected to see a bunch of malpractice lawsuits but that doesn't seem to have happened.
- mrguyorama 2y ago
  The entire problem is that "Will this woman die if we don't abort?" is a judgement call, and expecting doctors to make perfect judgement calls 100% of the time or go to prison is just stupid. Meanwhile many of the rest of the states in the nation don't require you to do the impossible: Rather, just help people with your medical knowledge, and get paid handsomely to do so. It's like making it a crime to cut someone open for surgery if you can't absolutely PROVE that they needed the surgery to save their lives, and then being surprised that doctors don't do surgery anymore. Any case even close to the grey line isn't worth your freedom over.
  - criddell 2y ago
    > expecting doctors to make perfect judgement calls 100% of the time I expect doctors to provide the same care to my wife, mother, and daughters that they would want the women in their lives to receive.
tw04 2y ago
You do understand the people pursuing this idiocy feel absolutely no guilt or shame, right? It's hand-waved away with "it's all part of God's plan". When you can blame some "higher power", you never have to take responsibility for anything, so there's no moral quandry to find yourself in. It's absolute insanity, but it's reality.

criddell 2y ago

> they've prevented doctors from providing adequate care for miscarriages When this started happening, I expected to see a bunch of malpractice lawsuits but that doesn't seem to have happened.

mrguyorama 2y ago
The entire problem is that "Will this woman die if we don't abort?" is a judgement call, and expecting doctors to make perfect judgement calls 100% of the time or go to prison is just stupid. Meanwhile many of the rest of the states in the nation don't require you to do the impossible: Rather, just help people with your medical knowledge, and get paid handsomely to do so. It's like making it a crime to cut someone open for surgery if you can't absolutely PROVE that they needed the surgery to save their lives, and then being surprised that doctors don't do surgery anymore. Any case even close to the grey line isn't worth your freedom over.
- criddell 2y ago
  > expecting doctors to make perfect judgement calls 100% of the time I expect doctors to provide the same care to my wife, mother, and daughters that they would want the women in their lives to receive.

tw04 2y ago

You do understand the people pursuing this idiocy feel absolutely no guilt or shame, right? It's hand-waved away with "it's all part of God's plan". When you can blame some "higher power", you never have to take responsibility for anything, so there's no moral quandry to find yourself in. It's absolute insanity, but it's reality.