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One thing I (intuitively) don't doubt - that they spent less money for developing R1 than OpenAI spent on marketing, lobbying and management compensation.
by wallaBBB 2y ago
One thing I (intuitively) don't doubt - that they spent less money for developing R1 than OpenAI spent on marketing, lobbying and management compensation.
- pertymcpert 2y agoWhat makes you say that? Do you think Chinese top tier talent is cheap?
- victorbjorklund 2y agoI'm sure the salaries at Deepseek in China were lower than the salaries at OpenAI.
- pertymcpert 2y agoHow are you sure about that?
- victorbjorklund 2y agoA qualified guess. Do you have something that indicates dev salaries are lower in US vs China?
- pertymcpert 2y agoOne example is that I've received offers to work in big tech in China at or exceeding my FAANG compensation here in the Bay Area. I have other reasons to believe as well but I can't talk about that in public.
- amunozo 2y agoDefinitely cheaper than American top tier talent
- pertymcpert 2y agoHow much cheaper? I’m curious because I’ve seen the offers that Chinese tech companies pay and it’s in the millions for the top talent.
- anonzzzies 2y agoWhat is cheap? But compared to the US, yes. Almost everywhere talent is 'cheap' compared to the US unless they move to the US.
- pertymcpert 2y agoHow experienced are you with Chinese AI talent compensation?
- wallaBBB 2y agoI did not refer to the talent directly contributing to the technical progress. P.S. - clarification: I mean not referring to talent at OpenAI. And yes I have very little doubt talent at DeepSeek is a lot cheaper than the things I listed above for OpenAI. I would be interested in a breakdown of the cost of OpenAI and seeing if even their technical talent costs more than the things I mentioned.
- pertymcpert 2y agoDo you think 1.5M a year compensation is cheap? That’s in the range of OpenAI offers.