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Specifically because this is a harassment campaign intended to discredit America's highest-quality reporting until only the Rupert Murdoch media is left.

unyttigfjelltol 2y ago
Reuters is top-shelf and neutral, but they are UK-based. AP departed from journalistic neutrality long ago.[1] They actually are among the worst journalistic offenders because of poor standards compounded by less visibility on their pervasive left-leaning bias. [1] https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/associated-press/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/associated-press/
- defrost 2y ago
  In good humour, with no slight intended: unyttigfjelltol departed from journalistic neutrality long ago. They actually are among the worst journalistic offenders because of hyperbolic overstatement and sleight of hand misuse of references that "support" their stance. The relevant quote from [1] is milquetoast: These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by appeals to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information but may require further investigation. AP is rated HIGH in factual content with a bias one stop to the left of "LEAST BIASED". Of all the biases out there this is not particularly troubling particularly as most (I would hope) are aware of it.
  - unyttigfjelltol 2y ago
    Your ad homenim is unwarranted. Here are some other references illustrating it is widely known AP has serious problems with bias and journalistic standards. "The AP has taken flak for a shift toward subjectivity in its news reporting, not just from media critics, but from small-town communities like the one in Lufkin, Texas. Readers of the Lufkin Daily News decried a July 4 AP story about Trump’s Mt. Rushmore speech for exhibiting bias, prompting an apology from the local paper’s editor. " [1] "Honest public discourse depends on calling things by their right names. But much like the current trend at many mainstream publications and broadcast outlets, where journalists think their job is now to fight Trump and conservatives rather than just report the facts and let the people decide, the AP Stylebook has become an eager recruit for left-wing Democratic activism and the anti-Trump “resistance.”"[2] "The Associated Press has morphed into a Berkeley-style left-wing rag. The key difference is that The Associated Press plays to a global audience of millions."[3] [1] https://www.allsides.com/blog/transparency-troubles-how-associated-press-mixes-news-and-subjectivity https://www.allsides.com/blog/transparency-troubles-how-asso... [2] https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/the-associated-press-progressive-bias-is-out-of-control/ https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/the-associated-press-progressi... [3] https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4519187-who-radicalized-the-associated-press/ https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4519187-who-radicalized...
    - defrost 2y ago
      My objective description of your overuse of hyperbole was accurate. Your comeback is that Allsides has stated that "The AP Sometimes Mixes Subjective Analysis Into News Articles". Correct .. sometimes. That's a far position from "worst journalistic offenders because of poor standards compounded by less visibility on their pervasive left-leaning bias" which is unquestionably hyperbolic rhetoric and intuitively obvious as such to the meanest intellect. Your ball. I'm off, have fun. ( In good faith and with best intentions do look up "ad hominem" .. I attacked the content and framing of your comment and mocked it, I did not and have yet to attack your person by, say, suggesting you're a cocaine user or somehow otherwise of low character )
    - archagon 2y ago
      You're citing the, uh, New York Post as a source...?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY5gvKd_2iA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY5gvKd_2iA
      - defrost 2y ago
        Best investigative reporting on the planet ~ Men in Black
      - unyttigfjelltol 2y ago
        The NYP is important and they report facts. I don't identify with the comedian's critique. I agree that it is odd that the elite news organizations have turned so biased and subjective so as to elevate the other half of the media landscape, and not the FOX News types. NYP is one of those organization diligently reporting real, fact-based stories in human terms. That's my personal experience anyway. I've been infuriated over and over by AP presenting nonsense as the news, and perhaps I hold them to a higher standard based on they way they position themselves. More than once I've had the reaction that their high-profile reporting was flagrantly wrong. I've never had that reaction to a NYP article, and I seek out the NYP when reports in other outlets are vague or insufficient.
- lenkite 2y ago
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  - dragonwriter 2y ago
    When you say “liberal bias” do you mean “liberal” as in: (1) The American political self-identity of mild reformist supporters of capitalism? (2) The international political self-identity of supporters of laissez-faire capitalism? (3) The pejorative used by much of the right wing for any viewpoint perceived to be to the left of Mussolini? (4) Or, the pejorative used by much of the left for any viewpoint perceived to be to the right of Chairman Mao? Because “liberal” is a heavily-overloaded term in politics.
    - lenkite 2y ago
      There is no big mystery about it. Whatever values the liberal American left hold dear are also applied internationally. Since Modi is a religious, conservative and nationalist leader, obviously he becomes their enemy and gets a long, endless chain of news articles condemning him. Not sure whether their stance was truly value based or you know - whether they were "funded" to have their opinions.
      - dragonwriter 2y ago
        > liberal American left Okay, so you are using the right-wing pejorative sense of “liberal” for “everyone who isn't a fascist”, since in none of the other uses do “liberal American” and ”left” occupy the same space.
        lenkite 2y ago
        Yawn, the usual ridiculous fascist/nazi claims. Congratulations sir! You have been successful in your "Strawman Argument". Basically, the AP is currently a global propaganda organization regardless of whatever labels or position you choose to assume of me. They have developed a bad reputation in nations outside the US/EU too.
      - 2y ago

unyttigfjelltol 2y ago

Reuters is top-shelf and neutral, but they are UK-based. AP departed from journalistic neutrality long ago.[1] They actually are among the worst journalistic offenders because of poor standards compounded by less visibility on their pervasive left-leaning bias. [1] https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/associated-press/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/associated-press/

defrost 2y ago
In good humour, with no slight intended: unyttigfjelltol departed from journalistic neutrality long ago. They actually are among the worst journalistic offenders because of hyperbolic overstatement and sleight of hand misuse of references that "support" their stance. The relevant quote from [1] is milquetoast: These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by appeals to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information but may require further investigation. AP is rated HIGH in factual content with a bias one stop to the left of "LEAST BIASED". Of all the biases out there this is not particularly troubling particularly as most (I would hope) are aware of it.
- unyttigfjelltol 2y ago
  Your ad homenim is unwarranted. Here are some other references illustrating it is widely known AP has serious problems with bias and journalistic standards. "The AP has taken flak for a shift toward subjectivity in its news reporting, not just from media critics, but from small-town communities like the one in Lufkin, Texas. Readers of the Lufkin Daily News decried a July 4 AP story about Trump’s Mt. Rushmore speech for exhibiting bias, prompting an apology from the local paper’s editor. " [1] "Honest public discourse depends on calling things by their right names. But much like the current trend at many mainstream publications and broadcast outlets, where journalists think their job is now to fight Trump and conservatives rather than just report the facts and let the people decide, the AP Stylebook has become an eager recruit for left-wing Democratic activism and the anti-Trump “resistance.”"[2] "The Associated Press has morphed into a Berkeley-style left-wing rag. The key difference is that The Associated Press plays to a global audience of millions."[3] [1] https://www.allsides.com/blog/transparency-troubles-how-associated-press-mixes-news-and-subjectivity https://www.allsides.com/blog/transparency-troubles-how-asso... [2] https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/the-associated-press-progressive-bias-is-out-of-control/ https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/the-associated-press-progressi... [3] https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4519187-who-radicalized-the-associated-press/ https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4519187-who-radicalized...
  - defrost 2y ago
    My objective description of your overuse of hyperbole was accurate. Your comeback is that Allsides has stated that "The AP Sometimes Mixes Subjective Analysis Into News Articles". Correct .. sometimes. That's a far position from "worst journalistic offenders because of poor standards compounded by less visibility on their pervasive left-leaning bias" which is unquestionably hyperbolic rhetoric and intuitively obvious as such to the meanest intellect. Your ball. I'm off, have fun. ( In good faith and with best intentions do look up "ad hominem" .. I attacked the content and framing of your comment and mocked it, I did not and have yet to attack your person by, say, suggesting you're a cocaine user or somehow otherwise of low character )
  - archagon 2y ago
    You're citing the, uh, New York Post as a source...?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY5gvKd_2iA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY5gvKd_2iA
    - defrost 2y ago
      Best investigative reporting on the planet ~ Men in Black
    - unyttigfjelltol 2y ago
      The NYP is important and they report facts. I don't identify with the comedian's critique. I agree that it is odd that the elite news organizations have turned so biased and subjective so as to elevate the other half of the media landscape, and not the FOX News types. NYP is one of those organization diligently reporting real, fact-based stories in human terms. That's my personal experience anyway. I've been infuriated over and over by AP presenting nonsense as the news, and perhaps I hold them to a higher standard based on they way they position themselves. More than once I've had the reaction that their high-profile reporting was flagrantly wrong. I've never had that reaction to a NYP article, and I seek out the NYP when reports in other outlets are vague or insufficient.
lenkite 2y ago
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- dragonwriter 2y ago
  When you say “liberal bias” do you mean “liberal” as in: (1) The American political self-identity of mild reformist supporters of capitalism? (2) The international political self-identity of supporters of laissez-faire capitalism? (3) The pejorative used by much of the right wing for any viewpoint perceived to be to the left of Mussolini? (4) Or, the pejorative used by much of the left for any viewpoint perceived to be to the right of Chairman Mao? Because “liberal” is a heavily-overloaded term in politics.
  - lenkite 2y ago
    There is no big mystery about it. Whatever values the liberal American left hold dear are also applied internationally. Since Modi is a religious, conservative and nationalist leader, obviously he becomes their enemy and gets a long, endless chain of news articles condemning him. Not sure whether their stance was truly value based or you know - whether they were "funded" to have their opinions.
    - dragonwriter 2y ago
      > liberal American left Okay, so you are using the right-wing pejorative sense of “liberal” for “everyone who isn't a fascist”, since in none of the other uses do “liberal American” and ”left” occupy the same space.
      - lenkite 2y ago
        Yawn, the usual ridiculous fascist/nazi claims. Congratulations sir! You have been successful in your "Strawman Argument". Basically, the AP is currently a global propaganda organization regardless of whatever labels or position you choose to assume of me. They have developed a bad reputation in nations outside the US/EU too.
    - 2y ago