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The harassment of AP and Reuters should offend anyone that has relied on their reporting before. On most topics they are the only publications I can trust to pu

The harassment of AP and Reuters should offend anyone that has relied on their reporting before. On most topics they are the only publications I can trust to publish fast and impartial news these days.

ljm 2y ago
Why exactly should the harassment of AP and Reuters be important in a way that doesn’t intersect with literally every other attack on the US people from its new administration? Literally every media outlet in existence pulls news down the wire from AP and Reuters before they apply their shitty editorial stance to it. Bumfuck News Arizona does not have the scoop on Trump handing Ukraine over to Putin straight from Odessa. But a bunch of mouth breathers in Texas will think he stood his ground there.
- nobankai 2y ago
  Specifically because this is a harassment campaign intended to discredit America's highest-quality reporting until only the Rupert Murdoch media is left.
  - unyttigfjelltol 2y ago
    Reuters is top-shelf and neutral, but they are UK-based. AP departed from journalistic neutrality long ago.[1] They actually are among the worst journalistic offenders because of poor standards compounded by less visibility on their pervasive left-leaning bias. [1] https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/associated-press/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/associated-press/
    - defrost 2y ago
      In good humour, with no slight intended: unyttigfjelltol departed from journalistic neutrality long ago. They actually are among the worst journalistic offenders because of hyperbolic overstatement and sleight of hand misuse of references that "support" their stance. The relevant quote from [1] is milquetoast: These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by appeals to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information but may require further investigation. AP is rated HIGH in factual content with a bias one stop to the left of "LEAST BIASED". Of all the biases out there this is not particularly troubling particularly as most (I would hope) are aware of it.
      - unyttigfjelltol 2y ago
        Your ad homenim is unwarranted. Here are some other references illustrating it is widely known AP has serious problems with bias and journalistic standards. "The AP has taken flak for a shift toward subjectivity in its news reporting, not just from media critics, but from small-town communities like the one in Lufkin, Texas. Readers of the Lufkin Daily News decried a July 4 AP story about Trump’s Mt. Rushmore speech for exhibiting bias, prompting an apology from the local paper’s editor. " [1] "Honest public discourse depends on calling things by their right names. But much like the current trend at many mainstream publications and broadcast outlets, where journalists think their job is now to fight Trump and conservatives rather than just report the facts and let the people decide, the AP Stylebook has become an eager recruit for left-wing Democratic activism and the anti-Trump “resistance.”"[2] "The Associated Press has morphed into a Berkeley-style left-wing rag. The key difference is that The Associated Press plays to a global audience of millions."[3] [1] https://www.allsides.com/blog/transparency-troubles-how-associated-press-mixes-news-and-subjectivity https://www.allsides.com/blog/transparency-troubles-how-asso... [2] https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/the-associated-press-progressive-bias-is-out-of-control/ https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/the-associated-press-progressi... [3] https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4519187-who-radicalized-the-associated-press/ https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4519187-who-radicalized...
        defrost 2y ago
        My objective description of your overuse of hyperbole was accurate. Your comeback is that Allsides has stated that "The AP Sometimes Mixes Subjective Analysis Into News Articles". Correct .. sometimes. That's a far position from "worst journalistic offenders because of poor standards compounded by less visibility on their pervasive left-leaning bias" which is unquestionably hyperbolic rhetoric and intuitively obvious as such to the meanest intellect. Your ball. I'm off, have fun. ( In good faith and with best intentions do look up "ad hominem" .. I attacked the content and framing of your comment and mocked it, I did not and have yet to attack your person by, say, suggesting you're a cocaine user or somehow otherwise of low character )
        archagon 2y ago
        You're citing the, uh, New York Post as a source...?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY5gvKd_2iA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY5gvKd_2iA
    - lenkite 2y ago
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      - dragonwriter 2y ago
        When you say “liberal bias” do you mean “liberal” as in: (1) The American political self-identity of mild reformist supporters of capitalism? (2) The international political self-identity of supporters of laissez-faire capitalism? (3) The pejorative used by much of the right wing for any viewpoint perceived to be to the left of Mussolini? (4) Or, the pejorative used by much of the left for any viewpoint perceived to be to the right of Chairman Mao? Because “liberal” is a heavily-overloaded term in politics.
        lenkite 2y ago
        There is no big mystery about it. Whatever values the liberal American left hold dear are also applied internationally. Since Modi is a religious, conservative and nationalist leader, obviously he becomes their enemy and gets a long, endless chain of news articles condemning him. Not sure whether their stance was truly value based or you know - whether they were "funded" to have their opinions.
        dragonwriter 2y ago
        > liberal American left Okay, so you are using the right-wing pejorative sense of “liberal” for “everyone who isn't a fascist”, since in none of the other uses do “liberal American” and ”left” occupy the same space.
        lenkite 2y ago
        Yawn, the usual ridiculous fascist/nazi claims. Congratulations sir! You have been successful in your "Strawman Argument". Basically, the AP is currently a global propaganda organization regardless of whatever labels or position you choose to assume of me. They have developed a bad reputation in nations outside the US/EU too.
        2y ago

ljm 2y ago

Why exactly should the harassment of AP and Reuters be important in a way that doesn’t intersect with literally every other attack on the US people from its new administration? Literally every media outlet in existence pulls news down the wire from AP and Reuters before they apply their shitty editorial stance to it. Bumfuck News Arizona does not have the scoop on Trump handing Ukraine over to Putin straight from Odessa. But a bunch of mouth breathers in Texas will think he stood his ground there.

nobankai 2y ago
Specifically because this is a harassment campaign intended to discredit America's highest-quality reporting until only the Rupert Murdoch media is left.
- unyttigfjelltol 2y ago
  Reuters is top-shelf and neutral, but they are UK-based. AP departed from journalistic neutrality long ago.[1] They actually are among the worst journalistic offenders because of poor standards compounded by less visibility on their pervasive left-leaning bias. [1] https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/associated-press/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/associated-press/
  - defrost 2y ago
    In good humour, with no slight intended: unyttigfjelltol departed from journalistic neutrality long ago. They actually are among the worst journalistic offenders because of hyperbolic overstatement and sleight of hand misuse of references that "support" their stance. The relevant quote from [1] is milquetoast: These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by appeals to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information but may require further investigation. AP is rated HIGH in factual content with a bias one stop to the left of "LEAST BIASED". Of all the biases out there this is not particularly troubling particularly as most (I would hope) are aware of it.
    - unyttigfjelltol 2y ago
      Your ad homenim is unwarranted. Here are some other references illustrating it is widely known AP has serious problems with bias and journalistic standards. "The AP has taken flak for a shift toward subjectivity in its news reporting, not just from media critics, but from small-town communities like the one in Lufkin, Texas. Readers of the Lufkin Daily News decried a July 4 AP story about Trump’s Mt. Rushmore speech for exhibiting bias, prompting an apology from the local paper’s editor. " [1] "Honest public discourse depends on calling things by their right names. But much like the current trend at many mainstream publications and broadcast outlets, where journalists think their job is now to fight Trump and conservatives rather than just report the facts and let the people decide, the AP Stylebook has become an eager recruit for left-wing Democratic activism and the anti-Trump “resistance.”"[2] "The Associated Press has morphed into a Berkeley-style left-wing rag. The key difference is that The Associated Press plays to a global audience of millions."[3] [1] https://www.allsides.com/blog/transparency-troubles-how-associated-press-mixes-news-and-subjectivity https://www.allsides.com/blog/transparency-troubles-how-asso... [2] https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/the-associated-press-progressive-bias-is-out-of-control/ https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/the-associated-press-progressi... [3] https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4519187-who-radicalized-the-associated-press/ https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4519187-who-radicalized...
      - defrost 2y ago
        My objective description of your overuse of hyperbole was accurate. Your comeback is that Allsides has stated that "The AP Sometimes Mixes Subjective Analysis Into News Articles". Correct .. sometimes. That's a far position from "worst journalistic offenders because of poor standards compounded by less visibility on their pervasive left-leaning bias" which is unquestionably hyperbolic rhetoric and intuitively obvious as such to the meanest intellect. Your ball. I'm off, have fun. ( In good faith and with best intentions do look up "ad hominem" .. I attacked the content and framing of your comment and mocked it, I did not and have yet to attack your person by, say, suggesting you're a cocaine user or somehow otherwise of low character )
      - archagon 2y ago
        You're citing the, uh, New York Post as a source...?! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY5gvKd_2iA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY5gvKd_2iA
  - lenkite 2y ago
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    - dragonwriter 2y ago
      When you say “liberal bias” do you mean “liberal” as in: (1) The American political self-identity of mild reformist supporters of capitalism? (2) The international political self-identity of supporters of laissez-faire capitalism? (3) The pejorative used by much of the right wing for any viewpoint perceived to be to the left of Mussolini? (4) Or, the pejorative used by much of the left for any viewpoint perceived to be to the right of Chairman Mao? Because “liberal” is a heavily-overloaded term in politics.
      - lenkite 2y ago
        There is no big mystery about it. Whatever values the liberal American left hold dear are also applied internationally. Since Modi is a religious, conservative and nationalist leader, obviously he becomes their enemy and gets a long, endless chain of news articles condemning him. Not sure whether their stance was truly value based or you know - whether they were "funded" to have their opinions.
        dragonwriter 2y ago
        > liberal American left Okay, so you are using the right-wing pejorative sense of “liberal” for “everyone who isn't a fascist”, since in none of the other uses do “liberal American” and ”left” occupy the same space.
        lenkite 2y ago
        Yawn, the usual ridiculous fascist/nazi claims. Congratulations sir! You have been successful in your "Strawman Argument". Basically, the AP is currently a global propaganda organization regardless of whatever labels or position you choose to assume of me. They have developed a bad reputation in nations outside the US/EU too.
        2y ago