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Meanwhile AP News is being hung out to dry because they are continuing to use the commonly accepted name. "Free speech" indeed.

by davidw 2y ago

nobankai 2y ago
The harassment of AP and Reuters should offend anyone that has relied on their reporting before. On most topics they are the only publications I can trust to publish fast and impartial news these days.
- ljm 2y ago
  Why exactly should the harassment of AP and Reuters be important in a way that doesn’t intersect with literally every other attack on the US people from its new administration? Literally every media outlet in existence pulls news down the wire from AP and Reuters before they apply their shitty editorial stance to it. Bumfuck News Arizona does not have the scoop on Trump handing Ukraine over to Putin straight from Odessa. But a bunch of mouth breathers in Texas will think he stood his ground there.
  - nobankai 2y ago
    Specifically because this is a harassment campaign intended to discredit America's highest-quality reporting until only the Rupert Murdoch media is left.
    - unyttigfjelltol 2y ago
      Reuters is top-shelf and neutral, but they are UK-based. AP departed from journalistic neutrality long ago.[1] They actually are among the worst journalistic offenders because of poor standards compounded by less visibility on their pervasive left-leaning bias. [1] https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/associated-press/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/associated-press/
      - defrost 2y ago
        In good humour, with no slight intended: unyttigfjelltol departed from journalistic neutrality long ago. They actually are among the worst journalistic offenders because of hyperbolic overstatement and sleight of hand misuse of references that "support" their stance. The relevant quote from [1] is milquetoast: These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by appeals to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information but may require further investigation. AP is rated HIGH in factual content with a bias one stop to the left of "LEAST BIASED". Of all the biases out there this is not particularly troubling particularly as most (I would hope) are aware of it.
        unyttigfjelltol 2y ago
        Your ad homenim is unwarranted. Here are some other references illustrating it is widely known AP has serious problems with bias and journalistic standards. "The AP has taken flak for a shift toward subjectivity in its news reporting, not just from media critics, but from small-town communities like the one in Lufkin, Texas. Readers of the Lufkin Daily News decried a July 4 AP story about Trump’s Mt. Rushmore speech for exhibiting bias, prompting an apology from the local paper’s editor. " [1] "Honest public discourse depends on calling things by their right names. But much like the current trend at many mainstream publications and broadcast outlets, where journalists think their job is now to fight Trump and conservatives rather than just report the facts and let the people decide, the AP Stylebook has become an eager recruit for left-wing Democratic activism and the anti-Trump “resistance.”"[2] "The Associated Press has morphed into a Berkeley-style left-wing rag. The key difference is that The Associated Press plays to a global audience of millions."[3] [1] https://www.allsides.com/blog/transparency-troubles-how-associated-press-mixes-news-and-subjectivity https://www.allsides.com/blog/transparency-troubles-how-asso... [2] https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/the-associated-press-progressive-bias-is-out-of-control/ https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/the-associated-press-progressi... [3] https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4519187-who-radicalized-the-associated-press/ https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4519187-who-radicalized...
ExoticPearTree 2y ago
I watched the video about AP and the the WH Press Secretary, and its as dramatic as it looks: AP chose to stick to their standards, and the WH chose to stick to the fact that they can be selective on who they invite to the press conferences and who travels with the president. In the end, the loss will be on the AP and others who decide to go this path, and most importantly to their readers. The only press allowed will be the one that acquiesces to the new administration and does not antagonize it. And this will be a major loss for press in general. I wish AP would not be so stubborn o unconsequential issues such as the Gulf of America. No one really cares, its a political stunt and nothing more.
- DangitBobby 2y ago
  Yes, it's APs fault BOO AP, any idiot knows the best way to fight the erosion fo press freedom is to give in at the slightest provocation.
  - dylan604 2y ago
    Right, and that's "working as designed" on behalf of the provocateurs.
  - ExoticPearTree 2y ago
    I really wish you would have read my comment on its entirety.
    - DangitBobby 2y ago
      I did! That's how my eyeballs fell upon these words: > The only press allowed will be the one that acquiesces to the new administration and does not antagonize it. And this will be a major loss for press in general. > I wish AP would not be so stubborn o unconsequential issues such as the Gulf of America. No one really cares, its a political stunt and nothing more. They were punished for not toeing the line. You think they should have toed the line so they can keep playing the game. Like I said, everyone knows backing down when they try to force you to carry a narrative is how you prevent erosion of free press. I guess you would rather they wait for them to declare the official policy is the earth is flat and defect after that? That probably isn't consequential enough either. I have to wonder where you draw the line. It's not okay to deplatform the AP over this, period.
AStonesThrow 2y ago
There's a stereotype of male motorists who never stop to ask directions when they may be lost. Now is that rugged male individualism, a DIY spirit, or something else? Passersby and strangers have the right of free speech, and what incentives would compel a stranger to give accurate directions the way the motorist wants to go? What also would inform the conversation with a stranger so that there is understanding and trust, assuming that the stranger doesn't intend to misdirect or beguile the motorist? Hop in car and tag along for 10 miles? The stereotype may also derive from a man's instinct to protect others. Such as a spouse and children in the car, or his coworkers, or just a taxi driver's fare. The man has taken responsibility at the wheel, and control and liability rests on him to complete the journey. A man's sense of fatherhood and spousal love--"jealousy" is a fierce force of nature that ultimately can only be tempered or quelled by feminine influence. Now take this defective "car analogy" and apply it to the US Gov, Justin Trudeau, or Mexico as you scope out and figure out what's really going on in 2025.

Meanwhile AP News is being hung out to dry because they are continuing to use the commonly accepted name. "Free speech" indeed.

by davidw 2y ago

Meanwhile AP News is being hung out to dry because they are continuing to use the commonly accepted name. "Free speech" indeed.

nobankai 2y ago

The harassment of AP and Reuters should offend anyone that has relied on their reporting before. On most topics they are the only publications I can trust to publish fast and impartial news these days.

ljm 2y ago
Why exactly should the harassment of AP and Reuters be important in a way that doesn’t intersect with literally every other attack on the US people from its new administration? Literally every media outlet in existence pulls news down the wire from AP and Reuters before they apply their shitty editorial stance to it. Bumfuck News Arizona does not have the scoop on Trump handing Ukraine over to Putin straight from Odessa. But a bunch of mouth breathers in Texas will think he stood his ground there.
- nobankai 2y ago
  Specifically because this is a harassment campaign intended to discredit America's highest-quality reporting until only the Rupert Murdoch media is left.
  - unyttigfjelltol 2y ago
    Reuters is top-shelf and neutral, but they are UK-based. AP departed from journalistic neutrality long ago.[1] They actually are among the worst journalistic offenders because of poor standards compounded by less visibility on their pervasive left-leaning bias. [1] https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/associated-press/ https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/associated-press/
    - defrost 2y ago
      In good humour, with no slight intended: unyttigfjelltol departed from journalistic neutrality long ago. They actually are among the worst journalistic offenders because of hyperbolic overstatement and sleight of hand misuse of references that "support" their stance. The relevant quote from [1] is milquetoast: These media sources have a slight to moderate liberal bias. They often publish factual information that utilizes loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by appeals to emotion or stereotypes) to favor liberal causes. These sources are generally trustworthy for information but may require further investigation. AP is rated HIGH in factual content with a bias one stop to the left of "LEAST BIASED". Of all the biases out there this is not particularly troubling particularly as most (I would hope) are aware of it.
      - unyttigfjelltol 2y ago
        Your ad homenim is unwarranted. Here are some other references illustrating it is widely known AP has serious problems with bias and journalistic standards. "The AP has taken flak for a shift toward subjectivity in its news reporting, not just from media critics, but from small-town communities like the one in Lufkin, Texas. Readers of the Lufkin Daily News decried a July 4 AP story about Trump’s Mt. Rushmore speech for exhibiting bias, prompting an apology from the local paper’s editor. " [1] "Honest public discourse depends on calling things by their right names. But much like the current trend at many mainstream publications and broadcast outlets, where journalists think their job is now to fight Trump and conservatives rather than just report the facts and let the people decide, the AP Stylebook has become an eager recruit for left-wing Democratic activism and the anti-Trump “resistance.”"[2] "The Associated Press has morphed into a Berkeley-style left-wing rag. The key difference is that The Associated Press plays to a global audience of millions."[3] [1] https://www.allsides.com/blog/transparency-troubles-how-associated-press-mixes-news-and-subjectivity https://www.allsides.com/blog/transparency-troubles-how-asso... [2] https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/the-associated-press-progressive-bias-is-out-of-control/ https://nypost.com/2020/10/22/the-associated-press-progressi... [3] https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4519187-who-radicalized-the-associated-press/ https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4519187-who-radicalized...

ExoticPearTree 2y ago

I watched the video about AP and the the WH Press Secretary, and its as dramatic as it looks: AP chose to stick to their standards, and the WH chose to stick to the fact that they can be selective on who they invite to the press conferences and who travels with the president. In the end, the loss will be on the AP and others who decide to go this path, and most importantly to their readers. The only press allowed will be the one that acquiesces to the new administration and does not antagonize it. And this will be a major loss for press in general. I wish AP would not be so stubborn o unconsequential issues such as the Gulf of America. No one really cares, its a political stunt and nothing more.

DangitBobby 2y ago
Yes, it's APs fault BOO AP, any idiot knows the best way to fight the erosion fo press freedom is to give in at the slightest provocation.
- dylan604 2y ago
  Right, and that's "working as designed" on behalf of the provocateurs.
- ExoticPearTree 2y ago
  I really wish you would have read my comment on its entirety.
  - DangitBobby 2y ago
    I did! That's how my eyeballs fell upon these words: > The only press allowed will be the one that acquiesces to the new administration and does not antagonize it. And this will be a major loss for press in general. > I wish AP would not be so stubborn o unconsequential issues such as the Gulf of America. No one really cares, its a political stunt and nothing more. They were punished for not toeing the line. You think they should have toed the line so they can keep playing the game. Like I said, everyone knows backing down when they try to force you to carry a narrative is how you prevent erosion of free press. I guess you would rather they wait for them to declare the official policy is the earth is flat and defect after that? That probably isn't consequential enough either. I have to wonder where you draw the line. It's not okay to deplatform the AP over this, period.

AStonesThrow 2y ago

There's a stereotype of male motorists who never stop to ask directions when they may be lost. Now is that rugged male individualism, a DIY spirit, or something else? Passersby and strangers have the right of free speech, and what incentives would compel a stranger to give accurate directions the way the motorist wants to go? What also would inform the conversation with a stranger so that there is understanding and trust, assuming that the stranger doesn't intend to misdirect or beguile the motorist? Hop in car and tag along for 10 miles? The stereotype may also derive from a man's instinct to protect others. Such as a spouse and children in the car, or his coworkers, or just a taxi driver's fare. The man has taken responsibility at the wheel, and control and liability rests on him to complete the journey. A man's sense of fatherhood and spousal love--"jealousy" is a fierce force of nature that ultimately can only be tempered or quelled by feminine influence. Now take this defective "car analogy" and apply it to the US Gov, Justin Trudeau, or Mexico as you scope out and figure out what's really going on in 2025.