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Will they if you just fix their projects long after they've taken credit for the success and moved on? They passed the buck to you.

j1elo 2y ago
Yeah, that reminds me of the concept of externalized costs... they are not "paying" for the whole price (in terms of time of work) that the feature costs. An external force is paying it for them, so life is beautiful and they can afford to keep doing half the work.
- b3lvedere 2y ago
  Our company is not that big and has a very limited finite amount of people who have the right resources to fix these sort of things.
b3lvedere 2y ago
Most of the things i had to fix came by order of the CEO directly. If the new colleagues will not learn within a due time frame, i am guessing their carreer might take a bump. Personally i don't really mind at the moment. I get to do various work and it's been less stressful.
- guappa 2y ago
  I'm sure they are soon going to be your managers.
  - chasd00 2y ago
    Worse, soon he will be their manager and then those failures and missed golives will be his fault.
    - tempoponet 2y ago
      Only if the Peter Principal is in effect. As a manager they would be uniquely positioned to scope and assess the prep work. With a bit of mentoring they might "get it" sooner, rather than "eventually".
      - guappa 2y ago
        It's not that they don't get it, it's that they don't care.
    - b3lvedere 2y ago
      Not for this paycheck :) I've been a manager in earlier times and got shit from all sides. Nearly drove me to a burnout. Paycheck was still horrible. So i quit that.
  - b3lvedere 2y ago
    That would make a fun conversation with the CEO :)
    - guappa 2y ago
      I have a coworker that placed a "return true" at the beginning of a failing test, and when I reverted the change spent ONE ENTIRE MONTH arguing that I had broken the test and it was now my responsibility to fix it. Several emails per day, because according to him what he did is completely legit. He was at my same level then. Now he's 2 levels higher.
  - CamperBob2 2y ago
    Sounds like they already are.

j1elo 2y ago

Yeah, that reminds me of the concept of externalized costs... they are not "paying" for the whole price (in terms of time of work) that the feature costs. An external force is paying it for them, so life is beautiful and they can afford to keep doing half the work.

b3lvedere 2y ago
Our company is not that big and has a very limited finite amount of people who have the right resources to fix these sort of things.

b3lvedere 2y ago

Most of the things i had to fix came by order of the CEO directly. If the new colleagues will not learn within a due time frame, i am guessing their carreer might take a bump. Personally i don't really mind at the moment. I get to do various work and it's been less stressful.

guappa 2y ago
I'm sure they are soon going to be your managers.
- chasd00 2y ago
  Worse, soon he will be their manager and then those failures and missed golives will be his fault.
  - tempoponet 2y ago
    Only if the Peter Principal is in effect. As a manager they would be uniquely positioned to scope and assess the prep work. With a bit of mentoring they might "get it" sooner, rather than "eventually".
    - guappa 2y ago
      It's not that they don't get it, it's that they don't care.
  - b3lvedere 2y ago
    Not for this paycheck :) I've been a manager in earlier times and got shit from all sides. Nearly drove me to a burnout. Paycheck was still horrible. So i quit that.
- b3lvedere 2y ago
  That would make a fun conversation with the CEO :)
  - guappa 2y ago
    I have a coworker that placed a "return true" at the beginning of a failing test, and when I reverted the change spent ONE ENTIRE MONTH arguing that I had broken the test and it was now my responsibility to fix it. Several emails per day, because according to him what he did is completely legit. He was at my same level then. Now he's 2 levels higher.
- CamperBob2 2y ago
  Sounds like they already are.