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And Lynch's Dune looks like it does, probably in no small part due to Jodorowsky, Giger and Mobius. I recommend everyone interested in Dune to take a look at J

And Lynch's Dune looks like it does, probably in no small part due to Jodorowsky, Giger and Mobius. I recommend everyone interested in Dune to take a look at Jodorowsky's Dune [0], the documentary which explains how they did the preproduction of Dune, and pitched it to the studios. All the deals eventually fell through, but the pitch decks circulated all the studios for years afterwards, and inspired countless other movie makers. The best things about the new Dune installments imo is the art, but all, or most of it feels like copy pasted ideas from what came before them. CGI is a huge asset to actually get it working though. 0: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1935156 https://m.imdb.com/title/tt1935156

madaxe_again 2y ago
Mœbius probably has the greatest influence to obscurity ratio of any artist I can think of - his fingerprints are on so, so many things - and irony of ironies Jodorowsky’s Dune was probably one of the greatest catapults for further promulgating his aesthetic into the mainstream through the vessel of Giger. I doubt Giger would have been Giger without their collaboration on Dune. The unmade movie penetrates the popular psyche. I remember finding Metal Hurlant and The Incal at a vide grenier in France as a kid, well before the days of the web, and just being blown away by the visions of this guy - only years later did I realise that I wasn’t alone in that sentiment. He’s the unseen foundation on which so much has been built. A creator’s creator, if you like.
- bazoom42 2y ago
  Also worth mentioning the comic story “A Long Tomorrow” by Moebius which was an inspiration for the visuals in Blade Runner.
- djmips 2y ago
  I recently found out that Mœbius was a huge influence on Hayao Miyazaki that is particularly evident in his Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind.
- Fricken 2y ago
  The most relevant artists aren't those best regarded by popular audiences or critics, but the ones that do the most to inspire and influence other artists. Both Moebius and Lynch are huge in that regard.
  - BonitaPersona 2y ago
    This specifically reminded me of how many popular genre fiction writers point to Gene Wolfe as an inspiration and influence, while he still remains unknown to the fans of these popular writers' work.
- losthobbies 2y ago
  If you havent seen it already, I would recommend watching Scavengers Reign. It has a similar style to Mœbius.
  - latexr 2y ago
    I recommend the original short to anyone. https://vimeo.com/179779722 https://vimeo.com/179779722 If you like that, you’ll like the more recent show (Scavengers Reign, the parent comment’s recommendation). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scavengers_Reign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scavengers_Reign Be warned it wasn’t renewed for a second season, it didn’t have enough people talking about and watching. The creators do have something new going on, called “Common Side Effects”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Side_Effects https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Side_Effects
  - skyyler 2y ago
    >The series has received critical acclaim. >the first season has a 100% approval score with an average rating of 8.7/10, based on 22 critic reviews. >Andrew Webster of The Verge deemed it to be "equal parts beautiful and brutal, and it might be the most original piece of science fiction of the year" >In May 2024, the series was canceled by Max This is so confusing. Making good art must not be profitable.
    - BizarroLand 2y ago
      No, it's profitable. The problem is the schism of media. If I already have 3 streaming service providers but the greatest show on earth is only watchable on "kufuzu neon plus", I'm just not going to watch it. Consumers care more about convenience. What they should have done is to integrate into Netflix, stop worrying about exclusive premiere content, and instead focus on outcompeting the others in a common marketplace. Instead they all conspired to fall on netflix like a pack of hyenas, rip off whatever chunks they could get and then retreat to their dens to enjoy the spoils. So yeah, screw them. If you're a creative, don't sell your original valuable ideas to companies that are not built on original valuable ideas.
- lordfrito 2y ago
  If you love the Moebius asthetic and are a gamer, do yourself a favor and checkout Sable. The game perfectly captures the vibe and spirit of his works, and was just a joy to play. [0] [0] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a0evJUp7-aw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a0evJUp7-aw
- sandy_coyote 2y ago
  Geof Darrow is one of my fav Moebius-influenced artists. Among his own projects, he created concept art for The Matrix. Example here, down a bit: https://www.vulture.com/2015/05/geof-darrow-shaolin-cowboy-zombies.html https://www.vulture.com/2015/05/geof-darrow-shaolin-cowboy-z...
elevaet 2y ago
+1 for Jodorowsky's Dune. It's a fascinating study of "the greatest sci fi movie never made". You can see its DNA in Star Wars, Bladerunner, Alien and more. I hope some day Moebius and Jodorowsky's storyboards are published in the public domain
- nradov 2y ago
  Regardless of whether the storyboards are in the public domain, I'm sure that someone will eventually "make" Jodorowsky's Dune using AI tools. Feed in the artwork, novels, and actors to get a complete movie out. This will be technically possible within a few years. It will probably look good (at least for casual viewing) but the human performances will still seem a little odd. I'm not claiming that this will necessarily be a good thing from an artistic or legal perspective. But there are enough Dune fans out there with access to AI video tools that someone will eventually do it.
  - esotericimpl 2y ago
    I love how this slop is something you think we should be looking forward to.
    - drivers99 2y ago
      quote: > not claiming that this will necessarily be a good thing
    - skissane 2y ago
      The thing about slop, is if it is continuously improving slop, maybe one day it won’t be slop any more
  - elevaet 2y ago
    I'd definitely be more interested in seeing the storyboard than the AI generated movie. I guess that says something about how I/we value of AI generated content

madaxe_again 2y ago

Mœbius probably has the greatest influence to obscurity ratio of any artist I can think of - his fingerprints are on so, so many things - and irony of ironies Jodorowsky’s Dune was probably one of the greatest catapults for further promulgating his aesthetic into the mainstream through the vessel of Giger. I doubt Giger would have been Giger without their collaboration on Dune. The unmade movie penetrates the popular psyche. I remember finding Metal Hurlant and The Incal at a vide grenier in France as a kid, well before the days of the web, and just being blown away by the visions of this guy - only years later did I realise that I wasn’t alone in that sentiment. He’s the unseen foundation on which so much has been built. A creator’s creator, if you like.

bazoom42 2y ago
Also worth mentioning the comic story “A Long Tomorrow” by Moebius which was an inspiration for the visuals in Blade Runner.
djmips 2y ago
I recently found out that Mœbius was a huge influence on Hayao Miyazaki that is particularly evident in his Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind.
Fricken 2y ago
The most relevant artists aren't those best regarded by popular audiences or critics, but the ones that do the most to inspire and influence other artists. Both Moebius and Lynch are huge in that regard.
- BonitaPersona 2y ago
  This specifically reminded me of how many popular genre fiction writers point to Gene Wolfe as an inspiration and influence, while he still remains unknown to the fans of these popular writers' work.
losthobbies 2y ago
If you havent seen it already, I would recommend watching Scavengers Reign. It has a similar style to Mœbius.
- latexr 2y ago
  I recommend the original short to anyone. https://vimeo.com/179779722 https://vimeo.com/179779722 If you like that, you’ll like the more recent show (Scavengers Reign, the parent comment’s recommendation). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scavengers_Reign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scavengers_Reign Be warned it wasn’t renewed for a second season, it didn’t have enough people talking about and watching. The creators do have something new going on, called “Common Side Effects”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Side_Effects https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Side_Effects
- skyyler 2y ago
  >The series has received critical acclaim. >the first season has a 100% approval score with an average rating of 8.7/10, based on 22 critic reviews. >Andrew Webster of The Verge deemed it to be "equal parts beautiful and brutal, and it might be the most original piece of science fiction of the year" >In May 2024, the series was canceled by Max This is so confusing. Making good art must not be profitable.
  - BizarroLand 2y ago
    No, it's profitable. The problem is the schism of media. If I already have 3 streaming service providers but the greatest show on earth is only watchable on "kufuzu neon plus", I'm just not going to watch it. Consumers care more about convenience. What they should have done is to integrate into Netflix, stop worrying about exclusive premiere content, and instead focus on outcompeting the others in a common marketplace. Instead they all conspired to fall on netflix like a pack of hyenas, rip off whatever chunks they could get and then retreat to their dens to enjoy the spoils. So yeah, screw them. If you're a creative, don't sell your original valuable ideas to companies that are not built on original valuable ideas.
lordfrito 2y ago
If you love the Moebius asthetic and are a gamer, do yourself a favor and checkout Sable. The game perfectly captures the vibe and spirit of his works, and was just a joy to play. [0] [0] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a0evJUp7-aw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=a0evJUp7-aw
sandy_coyote 2y ago
Geof Darrow is one of my fav Moebius-influenced artists. Among his own projects, he created concept art for The Matrix. Example here, down a bit: https://www.vulture.com/2015/05/geof-darrow-shaolin-cowboy-zombies.html https://www.vulture.com/2015/05/geof-darrow-shaolin-cowboy-z...

elevaet 2y ago

+1 for Jodorowsky's Dune. It's a fascinating study of "the greatest sci fi movie never made". You can see its DNA in Star Wars, Bladerunner, Alien and more. I hope some day Moebius and Jodorowsky's storyboards are published in the public domain

nradov 2y ago
Regardless of whether the storyboards are in the public domain, I'm sure that someone will eventually "make" Jodorowsky's Dune using AI tools. Feed in the artwork, novels, and actors to get a complete movie out. This will be technically possible within a few years. It will probably look good (at least for casual viewing) but the human performances will still seem a little odd. I'm not claiming that this will necessarily be a good thing from an artistic or legal perspective. But there are enough Dune fans out there with access to AI video tools that someone will eventually do it.
- esotericimpl 2y ago
  I love how this slop is something you think we should be looking forward to.
  - drivers99 2y ago
    quote: > not claiming that this will necessarily be a good thing
  - skissane 2y ago
    The thing about slop, is if it is continuously improving slop, maybe one day it won’t be slop any more
- elevaet 2y ago
  I'd definitely be more interested in seeing the storyboard than the AI generated movie. I guess that says something about how I/we value of AI generated content