> but the main fact - that all this communication, access to information, has resulted in almost zero global discursive improvement Were we trying to optimize

> but the main fact - that all this communication, access to information, has resulted in almost zero global discursive improvement Were we trying to optimize for that? Because it looks like an impossible goal. IMO, we were optimizing for best effort interested discourse on some places, and peak discourse on others. Both seem to have improved greatly. That last one has got so extraordinary changes that people honestly can't imagine doing things the old ways anymore.