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“Free speech” disappeared almost immediately after the Twitter purchase. Along with all of Musks supporters changing from “we need free speech”, to “Musk owns t

“Free speech” disappeared almost immediately after the Twitter purchase. Along with all of Musks supporters changing from “we need free speech”, to “Musk owns the platform, he can do what he wants.” Pre-Musk Twitter was more about free speech, except it was trying to fight bots, hate speech and disinformation.

abernard1 2y ago
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- BSDobelix 2y ago
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- beowulfey 2y ago
  I don't understand how your comment is relevant. It feels like word salad and does not appear to logically follow the PC. What is "truth to power"? Did those ex-intelligence officers survive the Musk purge? How does this all relate to the events of today?
  - abernard1 2y ago
    The USAID revelation revealed how they were funded. Along with thousands of other news organizations domestically and globally.
    - beowulfey 2y ago
      You're still not making sense. Who is "they" here, USAID? What does your second sentence even mean? How "news organizations [are funded]"? I'm seriously unclear what you are trying to say.
      - genewitch 2y ago
        USAID had thousands of premium subscriptions to newspapers and magazines. One such was for 8000 monthly subscriptions. I don't remember the publication with 8000 but the NYT also got money from USAID. Not sure if that's what we're talking about here. For the record I am against that practice.
bluescrn 2y ago
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- myvoiceismypass 2y ago
  Do you have any examples of left-wing disinfo that Twitter let spread previously?
guywithahat 2y ago
I would argue it appeared after the Twitter purchase. Originally Twitter had been dying through excessive bans, now you can find major political influencers on both sides of the spectrum
SiliconSplash 2y ago
The biggest problem with the term "Free Speech" is that almost everyone makes exceptions for things that they believe should be restricted/censored. Therefore the only standard should be the legality of that speech in a particular country. In the US those things you put as exemptions are permitted. So pre-musk Twitter wasn't about free-speech as those exemptions are restrictions on speech that are greater than US law restricts (which isn't much tbh). Generally you have a trade off on any of these platforms between what you can say without breaking terms of service and the popularity of that platform. Generally less popular platforms are less restrictive. If you don't want your speech restricted, you should probably just go back to hosting your blog and using a mailing list.
_zagj 2y ago
> about free speech, except it was trying to fight bots, hate speech > about free speech > fight hate speech Do you realize how absurd you sound?

abernard1 2y ago

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BSDobelix 2y ago
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beowulfey 2y ago
I don't understand how your comment is relevant. It feels like word salad and does not appear to logically follow the PC. What is "truth to power"? Did those ex-intelligence officers survive the Musk purge? How does this all relate to the events of today?
- abernard1 2y ago
  The USAID revelation revealed how they were funded. Along with thousands of other news organizations domestically and globally.
  - beowulfey 2y ago
    You're still not making sense. Who is "they" here, USAID? What does your second sentence even mean? How "news organizations [are funded]"? I'm seriously unclear what you are trying to say.
    - genewitch 2y ago
      USAID had thousands of premium subscriptions to newspapers and magazines. One such was for 8000 monthly subscriptions. I don't remember the publication with 8000 but the NYT also got money from USAID. Not sure if that's what we're talking about here. For the record I am against that practice.

bluescrn 2y ago

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myvoiceismypass 2y ago
Do you have any examples of left-wing disinfo that Twitter let spread previously?

guywithahat 2y ago

I would argue it appeared after the Twitter purchase. Originally Twitter had been dying through excessive bans, now you can find major political influencers on both sides of the spectrum

SiliconSplash 2y ago

The biggest problem with the term "Free Speech" is that almost everyone makes exceptions for things that they believe should be restricted/censored. Therefore the only standard should be the legality of that speech in a particular country. In the US those things you put as exemptions are permitted. So pre-musk Twitter wasn't about free-speech as those exemptions are restrictions on speech that are greater than US law restricts (which isn't much tbh). Generally you have a trade off on any of these platforms between what you can say without breaking terms of service and the popularity of that platform. Generally less popular platforms are less restrictive. If you don't want your speech restricted, you should probably just go back to hosting your blog and using a mailing list.

_zagj 2y ago

> about free speech, except it was trying to fight bots, hate speech > about free speech > fight hate speech Do you realize how absurd you sound?