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There never was any demand for free speech from him. He just wanted to advance his fascist agenda and used whatever means he had at his disposal.
by mordae 2y ago
There never was any demand for free speech from him. He just wanted to advance his fascist agenda and used whatever means he had at his disposal.
- scott_w 2y agoWhile you’re correct as to his intentions, it’s still important to point out his hypocrisy as he called himself “a free speech absolutist,” and claimed to want Twitter to be part of that vision. He explicitly called left wing and right wing views as things he wants. Yes, we know it was all lies but not putting out the evidence allows people like Musk and his acolytes to make it the new truth without a fight.
- matwood 2y agoWe really are living in a world where we were always at war with Eurasia. Musk shouted loudly to his followers his views on free speech and why he wanted to buy Twitter. And now, it’s like it never happened. This isn’t like a bias news outlet leaving out certain facts, this is Musk himself saying these things and people going along with it. It’s bonkers to me.
- jmcgough 2y agoI'm not sure you understand free speech. Free speech means he can make public threats to people without repercussions, doxx people when he feels like it, lie, and spread misinformation for personal gain. It means unbanning rule breakers, doxxers and harassers, as long as they're right-wing. Free speech does not extend to anyone who he personally disagrees with or dislikes, who will instead be banned from the platform.
- llamaimperative 2y agoLegal (first amendment) free speech certainly allows him to ban whoever he wants. However, this is the exact behavior from prior owners that he counter-positioned himself against, allegedly pursuing a broader “free speech absolutism.” That philosophy certainly would not permit arbitrary bans of people he doesn’t like. These mental gymnastics are remarkable to see.
- scott_w 2y agoI think we’re all in agreement and the person you’re replying to is being sarcastic ;-)
- aredox 2y agoRemember how he tried to get out of the twitter deal by claining there were too many bots? How is the bot situation on twitter now?
- jzb 2y agoI don’t think he ever wanted out of the deal. It was a way to keep the acquisition from being scrutinized too much.
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- sirsinsalot 2y agoIt's pretty crazy. If you say something that offends him (like perhaps the financial abandonment of his kids) then you're banned. Free speech eh.
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- JumpCrisscross 2y ago> Musk is dramatically more pro-speech than any other social media platform owner X is blocking private messages on the basis of their content. Every competitor with E2E as even an option clears this bar handily.
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- zonkerdonker 2y agoOn the assumption you are acting in good faith, that is a very poor analogy. I think a more apt one would be: Imagine asking for a shit-free meal, and you're served a meal with just a little bit of shit in it.
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- zonkerdonker 2y agoOk, lets get some things straight. Musk has /claimed/ (repeatedly) that he is a free speech absolutist, and by extension that twitter is as well. This is false: https://english.elpais.com/international/2023-05-24/under-elon-musk-twitter-has-approved-83-of-censorship-requests-by-authoritarian-governments.html https://english.elpais.com/international/2023-05-24/under-el... I'm not clear on how you're defining edge cases here, and regardless, it doesnt matter. "Sorry officer, those murders back there were just a few edge cases! I've publicly pledged to a murder free life!" I see very few in this thread pretending anything
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