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It’s crazy how divided we are on the issues. In the last 4 years the needle went so far left, way past what even traditional Democrats wanted. Now it’s heading

It’s crazy how divided we are on the issues. In the last 4 years the needle went so far left, way past what even traditional Democrats wanted. Now it’s heading to the right faster than a Falcon 9 rocket. The people in the center are probably just frustrated. The far left are visibly enraged and the far right are celebrating at every EO. Crazy times.

majormajor 2y ago
> In the last 4 years the needle went so far left, way past what even traditional Democrats wanted. Not in many useful ways by global standards of "left." There was a certain amount of public investment in infrastructure, but beyond that... Better public healthcare? Getting prescription prices under control? The use of left-leaning methods to address housing prices (rent control, say)? The FTC went after some mega-corps, at least, but without much hope of success because the legislature didn't do anything new in the M&A or antitrust space.
midnightclubbed 2y ago
Did the needle go far left? I didn’t see it go much past the American center (which is very right compared to most of the western world). We got some DEI that has for the most part been proven to be lip service, so much for equal under law and land of the free. We got some money for infrastructure, we put people who participated in an insurrection in jail, we got business as usual. We didn’t get universal healthcare, we didn’t get a reduction of the power of monopolies, we didn’t get a reduction in the military budget, we didn’t get a minimum wage that tracked inflation let alone was a livable wage, we didn’t get money out of politics and politicians, we didn’t get the rich to pay their fair share. The only way I’d measure the past 4 years as being left is because of the current jarring swerve into a right wing oligarchy
- card_zero 2y ago
  "Let's check the military" is the latest thing, so you might get a reduction in the military budget now, who knows. Perhaps in relation to things like throwing Ukraine under the bus. Is this a very left-wing thing, a small military?
  - orwin 2y ago
    Yes. That's probably why I don't see the DOD budget move much. Maybe bigger contracts with Tesla,spaceX, neuralink and starlink to replace some of Boeing.
cyberge99 2y ago
Not really. The Overton Window has been moving rightward recently and sadly.
vkou 2y ago
Really? In the past four years, did we get land reform? Housing reform? Healthcare reform? Something that addressed wealth inequality? Police accountability? Worker rights? Anything to address the mental health crisis? Anything to tackle the problems people with drug addiction are facing? Any change to the trajectory of climate change, as opposed to just kicking the can down the road? Affordability of childcare? Cost of education? I could go on and on. We aren't 'divided' on how to deal with our issues. The right doesn't see any of the above as issues, and doesn't see any need to address them. Your perception that things swung left does not match the reality. The right echo chamber has driven itself into a frenzy to try to manufacture this perception, as justification for their reactionary politics.
- senordevnyc 2y ago
  Some trans women played in some sports. So basically the downfall of western civilization.

majormajor 2y ago

> In the last 4 years the needle went so far left, way past what even traditional Democrats wanted. Not in many useful ways by global standards of "left." There was a certain amount of public investment in infrastructure, but beyond that... Better public healthcare? Getting prescription prices under control? The use of left-leaning methods to address housing prices (rent control, say)? The FTC went after some mega-corps, at least, but without much hope of success because the legislature didn't do anything new in the M&A or antitrust space.

midnightclubbed 2y ago

Did the needle go far left? I didn’t see it go much past the American center (which is very right compared to most of the western world). We got some DEI that has for the most part been proven to be lip service, so much for equal under law and land of the free. We got some money for infrastructure, we put people who participated in an insurrection in jail, we got business as usual. We didn’t get universal healthcare, we didn’t get a reduction of the power of monopolies, we didn’t get a reduction in the military budget, we didn’t get a minimum wage that tracked inflation let alone was a livable wage, we didn’t get money out of politics and politicians, we didn’t get the rich to pay their fair share. The only way I’d measure the past 4 years as being left is because of the current jarring swerve into a right wing oligarchy

card_zero 2y ago
"Let's check the military" is the latest thing, so you might get a reduction in the military budget now, who knows. Perhaps in relation to things like throwing Ukraine under the bus. Is this a very left-wing thing, a small military?
- orwin 2y ago
  Yes. That's probably why I don't see the DOD budget move much. Maybe bigger contracts with Tesla,spaceX, neuralink and starlink to replace some of Boeing.

cyberge99 2y ago

Not really. The Overton Window has been moving rightward recently and sadly.

vkou 2y ago

Really? In the past four years, did we get land reform? Housing reform? Healthcare reform? Something that addressed wealth inequality? Police accountability? Worker rights? Anything to address the mental health crisis? Anything to tackle the problems people with drug addiction are facing? Any change to the trajectory of climate change, as opposed to just kicking the can down the road? Affordability of childcare? Cost of education? I could go on and on. We aren't 'divided' on how to deal with our issues. The right doesn't see any of the above as issues, and doesn't see any need to address them. Your perception that things swung left does not match the reality. The right echo chamber has driven itself into a frenzy to try to manufacture this perception, as justification for their reactionary politics.

senordevnyc 2y ago
Some trans women played in some sports. So basically the downfall of western civilization.