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The difference is that private industry is buying what's effective while politicians mouth off. This is one of the reasons we should let the "free market" contr

The difference is that private industry is buying what's effective while politicians mouth off. This is one of the reasons we should let the "free market" control things where we can, since they are compelled to make sensible decisions for efficiency reasons, unlike the government.

lovich 2y ago
They are compelled to make decisions for efficiency reasons as much as the government is. Companies make boneheaded decisions based on ideology all the time. Additionally every time I hear someone claim that companies running everything will be more efficient, when I dive into their beliefs I find out that they expect organizations they call “governments” are required to do many tasks that would not be required of organizations they call “corporations” and that is where all the “efficiency” comes from. If this was supposedly so much more of an “efficiently system then why has Texas experienced years of outage causing problems in their electrical grid?
- stogot 2y ago
  Both government and corporations have inefficiency? News flash: water is wet
  - lovich 2y ago
    Tell that to the OP
- Panzer04 2y ago
  We live in a world where half of elected officials want to stop the rollout of renewables for ideological reasons and regularly push nuclear power as an alternative, despite making zero economic sense. I'm not saying the government can't be efficient, but taxes represent a cash flow that is close to completely unbound to the results of their spending, so it's much easier for them to be used poorly depending on who's in charge.
  - lovich 2y ago
    Cool, you can loose a shareholder vote too and have a company go off and do something you think is dumb and therefore “inefficient”. Part of the point I’m trying to drive to is that many of the problems people have with governments are actually problems with organizations operating at scale
Hikikomori 2y ago
Free market is up there with communism on number of kills leaderboard.
Dylan16807 2y ago
I'm very very happy that green energy has gotten so effective, but what if it hadn't? Then private industry would be off polluting as much as possible. Monetary efficiency is often not aligned with resource and pollution efficiency. (And obviously that can be largely fixed with a carbon tax, but good luck getting that to happen.)

lovich 2y ago

They are compelled to make decisions for efficiency reasons as much as the government is. Companies make boneheaded decisions based on ideology all the time. Additionally every time I hear someone claim that companies running everything will be more efficient, when I dive into their beliefs I find out that they expect organizations they call “governments” are required to do many tasks that would not be required of organizations they call “corporations” and that is where all the “efficiency” comes from. If this was supposedly so much more of an “efficiently system then why has Texas experienced years of outage causing problems in their electrical grid?

stogot 2y ago
Both government and corporations have inefficiency? News flash: water is wet
- lovich 2y ago
  Tell that to the OP
Panzer04 2y ago
We live in a world where half of elected officials want to stop the rollout of renewables for ideological reasons and regularly push nuclear power as an alternative, despite making zero economic sense. I'm not saying the government can't be efficient, but taxes represent a cash flow that is close to completely unbound to the results of their spending, so it's much easier for them to be used poorly depending on who's in charge.
- lovich 2y ago
  Cool, you can loose a shareholder vote too and have a company go off and do something you think is dumb and therefore “inefficient”. Part of the point I’m trying to drive to is that many of the problems people have with governments are actually problems with organizations operating at scale

Hikikomori 2y ago

Free market is up there with communism on number of kills leaderboard.

Dylan16807 2y ago

I'm very very happy that green energy has gotten so effective, but what if it hadn't? Then private industry would be off polluting as much as possible. Monetary efficiency is often not aligned with resource and pollution efficiency. (And obviously that can be largely fixed with a carbon tax, but good luck getting that to happen.)