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Elon is the same person who was claiming Twitter had a "brittle stack" that needed a complete rewrite[0]. It's not surprising he's spewing complete nonsense for

Elon is the same person who was claiming Twitter had a "brittle stack" that needed a complete rewrite[0]. It's not surprising he's spewing complete nonsense for attention BUT it is worrying he has access to such critical government systems. [0]: https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1632810081497513993 https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1632810081497513993

retSava 2y ago
I haven't seen that particular stack and build setup to dispute or support that claim. Have you? What I have seen in my part of the developer world, is very brittle stacks/setups where minor changes have butterfly effects on completely unrelated parts. Pushing straight to important branches, build depending on several pretty unrelated repos, unclear and messy dependencies, etc etc. I can totally understand such a claim.
- hypeatei 2y ago
  I don't remember Twitter being known for downtime before he bought it and the claim it needed a complete rewrite indicates a lack of experience in software development. Rewriting everything rarely ends up in better software than you had before.
  - sandytoast 2y ago
    Google ‘fail whale’
    - sschueller 2y ago
      I wonder if Twitter is still running on Ruby on Rails. Those were the days...
      - relaxing 2y ago
        In case this isn’t sarcasm: it isn’t. For those who don’t remember that era: https://www.theregister.com/2012/11/08/twitter_epic_traffic_saved_by_java/ https://www.theregister.com/2012/11/08/twitter_epic_traffic_...
      - kevinh456 2y ago
        Shopify does somehow to this day.
    - galactus 2y ago
      The “fail whale” was a thing years before Elon’s acquisition.
    - ttepasse 2y ago
      The fail whale was a thing in the late 2000s, when Twitter was famously still on Ruby on Rails. After the early 2010s rewrite in Scala (?) it was pretty much stable.
- TheNewsIsHere 2y ago
  I used to be friends with a group of developers at Twitter after their rewrite. They had no complaints about “brittleness” or stability generally. We do know Elon isn’t anywhere near as smart as he likes to project in areas of modern computing, so I tend to not believe his claims. This was the man who publicly called a senior developer at Twitter an idiot for saying something about the government using SQL.
insane_dreamer 2y ago
Did they rewrite it?
ozozozd 2y ago
And then he bought it, fired a bunch of engineers and DID not rewrite it to prove that it wasn’t brittle.

retSava 2y ago

I haven't seen that particular stack and build setup to dispute or support that claim. Have you? What I have seen in my part of the developer world, is very brittle stacks/setups where minor changes have butterfly effects on completely unrelated parts. Pushing straight to important branches, build depending on several pretty unrelated repos, unclear and messy dependencies, etc etc. I can totally understand such a claim.

hypeatei 2y ago
I don't remember Twitter being known for downtime before he bought it and the claim it needed a complete rewrite indicates a lack of experience in software development. Rewriting everything rarely ends up in better software than you had before.
- sandytoast 2y ago
  Google ‘fail whale’
  - sschueller 2y ago
    I wonder if Twitter is still running on Ruby on Rails. Those were the days...
    - relaxing 2y ago
      In case this isn’t sarcasm: it isn’t. For those who don’t remember that era: https://www.theregister.com/2012/11/08/twitter_epic_traffic_saved_by_java/ https://www.theregister.com/2012/11/08/twitter_epic_traffic_...
    - kevinh456 2y ago
      Shopify does somehow to this day.
  - galactus 2y ago
    The “fail whale” was a thing years before Elon’s acquisition.
  - ttepasse 2y ago
    The fail whale was a thing in the late 2000s, when Twitter was famously still on Ruby on Rails. After the early 2010s rewrite in Scala (?) it was pretty much stable.
TheNewsIsHere 2y ago
I used to be friends with a group of developers at Twitter after their rewrite. They had no complaints about “brittleness” or stability generally. We do know Elon isn’t anywhere near as smart as he likes to project in areas of modern computing, so I tend to not believe his claims. This was the man who publicly called a senior developer at Twitter an idiot for saying something about the government using SQL.

insane_dreamer 2y ago

Did they rewrite it?

ozozozd 2y ago

And then he bought it, fired a bunch of engineers and DID not rewrite it to prove that it wasn’t brittle.