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I rode in a Tesla once for my Uber. The suspension was like a golf cart, super stiff. It made me sick to my stomach. I had to ask the driver to pull over so I c

I rode in a Tesla once for my Uber. The suspension was like a golf cart, super stiff. It made me sick to my stomach. I had to ask the driver to pull over so I could get out. Not sure if they since changed that. The Musk love vs hate that people foolishly adopt as their identity is the result of a power struggle between teams of elites.

Spivak 2y ago
I genuinely have no idea what was going through their head with the throttle design that seems to make coasting impossible. I too caught an Uber in a Tesla and got sick because in traffic you're just getting jerked forward and back constantly. The huge sunroof was cool but that was about it.
- malfist 2y ago
  Are you talking about one pedal mode? I have a different EV and love it, but it takes a couple weeks of driving before you get it down pat, and then it feels like normal driving, and it's easy to coast. Unless you're an impatient taxi driver I guess
- seanmcdirmid 2y ago
  My BMW i4 supports coasting (D-mode) and one-pedal driving (B-mode), one-pedal makes a lot of sense for the city, you get more regen and use brakes less, although you will get better mileage with coasting on the freeway if you aren't in stop and go traffic. My wife hates when I use one-pedal mode, if you are driving you don't notice it because you are in control, but it is less nice for passengers.
- slau 2y ago
  I had never thought this was a pedal issue. It’s a very significant problem in busses here in Copenhagen. We’re being jerked around continuously and it makes the ride very uncomfortable. On my car, it’s not an issue. The dead zone around the coasting point is wide enough and predictable enough. I always assumed the bus drivers were either incompetent or lacked empathy, but it being a hardware problem could make way, way more sense.
KPGv2 2y ago
> The Musk love vs hate that people foolishly adopt as their identity is the result of a power struggle between teams of elites. Yeah there's certainly no justifiable way a middle class person could arrive at at "Elon Musk is bad for me" independent of the elites telling us
- osrec 2y ago
  Elites telling us? Isn't Elon the elitest of them all?
- smogcutter 2y ago
  This is a tough crowd for sarcasm
- LincolnedList 2y ago
  The statement in quote is word for word the rethoric I'm seeing from Netanyahu fans in Israel, and probably Trump fans as well. Framing a topic as a love/hate binaric identity war is used to prevent all rational discussion. It might be me, but just reading this gaslighting statement fires my amygdala. Trolls, wether intentionally or subconsciouslly found perfect tactics to destroy rational debate on the internet and the public sphere in general. When rational discussion is suffocated, those who use agressive and toxic language with no inhibitions or restraint can win and impose their ideas. We need to disengage from these kinds of conversations and create some forums or platforms that penalize the use of such language. I'm pretty sure the original commentor is not dumb enough to actually think everybody who disagrees with him is a brainwashed idiot who "hates Musk". Or at least, they wouldn't dare to claim it in a civil discussion if they didn't knew they can get away with it and enjoy spewing bullshit while causing undue distress to anyone who tries to argue in good faith.
  - user3939382 2y ago
    > I'm pretty sure the original commentor is not dumb enough That's a pretty big leap of faith, knowing myself. I would say the ratio of people who have decided "Musk is great / Musk is the devil" vs "He's a human being therefore he's not all good or bad and should be analyzed with nuance" is about 100:1 at least preselecting for the personalities that can't keep themselves from populating a comment box, which apparently includes myself.
hcazz 2y ago
Echoing this, I dread every time I have an uber/lyft/etc that is a Tesla. I'm very convinced that most folks who buy Teslas generically hate cars, and simplifying the experience for them is how they get to drive/start/continue driving. Someone who can't manage a gear selector because it's "too complicated" is not someone I want driving on the road, and when you combine that with exceptionally terrible ride quality for the price, it makes for a dreadful experience. When you dumb down/streamline a phone experience into an iPhone you get something anyone globally can use, with not many downsides. When you dumb down a car experience into a single screen/app you get exceptionally shitty drivers.
cogman10 2y ago
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palmotea 2y ago
> The Musk love vs hate that people foolishly adopt as their identity is the result of a power struggle between teams of elites. Hated is a strong word, but I've always disliked Musk and have no interest in Tesla because his repeated comments about "full self driving" showed that he's a liar. Everything since then has just proven my skepticism. I don't think "Musk hate" is an identity. "Musk love," on the other hand, may be. It seems totally irrational sometimes.

Spivak 2y ago

I genuinely have no idea what was going through their head with the throttle design that seems to make coasting impossible. I too caught an Uber in a Tesla and got sick because in traffic you're just getting jerked forward and back constantly. The huge sunroof was cool but that was about it.

malfist 2y ago
Are you talking about one pedal mode? I have a different EV and love it, but it takes a couple weeks of driving before you get it down pat, and then it feels like normal driving, and it's easy to coast. Unless you're an impatient taxi driver I guess
seanmcdirmid 2y ago
My BMW i4 supports coasting (D-mode) and one-pedal driving (B-mode), one-pedal makes a lot of sense for the city, you get more regen and use brakes less, although you will get better mileage with coasting on the freeway if you aren't in stop and go traffic. My wife hates when I use one-pedal mode, if you are driving you don't notice it because you are in control, but it is less nice for passengers.
slau 2y ago
I had never thought this was a pedal issue. It’s a very significant problem in busses here in Copenhagen. We’re being jerked around continuously and it makes the ride very uncomfortable. On my car, it’s not an issue. The dead zone around the coasting point is wide enough and predictable enough. I always assumed the bus drivers were either incompetent or lacked empathy, but it being a hardware problem could make way, way more sense.

KPGv2 2y ago

> The Musk love vs hate that people foolishly adopt as their identity is the result of a power struggle between teams of elites. Yeah there's certainly no justifiable way a middle class person could arrive at at "Elon Musk is bad for me" independent of the elites telling us

osrec 2y ago
Elites telling us? Isn't Elon the elitest of them all?
smogcutter 2y ago
This is a tough crowd for sarcasm
LincolnedList 2y ago
The statement in quote is word for word the rethoric I'm seeing from Netanyahu fans in Israel, and probably Trump fans as well. Framing a topic as a love/hate binaric identity war is used to prevent all rational discussion. It might be me, but just reading this gaslighting statement fires my amygdala. Trolls, wether intentionally or subconsciouslly found perfect tactics to destroy rational debate on the internet and the public sphere in general. When rational discussion is suffocated, those who use agressive and toxic language with no inhibitions or restraint can win and impose their ideas. We need to disengage from these kinds of conversations and create some forums or platforms that penalize the use of such language. I'm pretty sure the original commentor is not dumb enough to actually think everybody who disagrees with him is a brainwashed idiot who "hates Musk". Or at least, they wouldn't dare to claim it in a civil discussion if they didn't knew they can get away with it and enjoy spewing bullshit while causing undue distress to anyone who tries to argue in good faith.
- user3939382 2y ago
  > I'm pretty sure the original commentor is not dumb enough That's a pretty big leap of faith, knowing myself. I would say the ratio of people who have decided "Musk is great / Musk is the devil" vs "He's a human being therefore he's not all good or bad and should be analyzed with nuance" is about 100:1 at least preselecting for the personalities that can't keep themselves from populating a comment box, which apparently includes myself.

hcazz 2y ago

Echoing this, I dread every time I have an uber/lyft/etc that is a Tesla. I'm very convinced that most folks who buy Teslas generically hate cars, and simplifying the experience for them is how they get to drive/start/continue driving. Someone who can't manage a gear selector because it's "too complicated" is not someone I want driving on the road, and when you combine that with exceptionally terrible ride quality for the price, it makes for a dreadful experience. When you dumb down/streamline a phone experience into an iPhone you get something anyone globally can use, with not many downsides. When you dumb down a car experience into a single screen/app you get exceptionally shitty drivers.

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palmotea 2y ago

> The Musk love vs hate that people foolishly adopt as their identity is the result of a power struggle between teams of elites. Hated is a strong word, but I've always disliked Musk and have no interest in Tesla because his repeated comments about "full self driving" showed that he's a liar. Everything since then has just proven my skepticism. I don't think "Musk hate" is an identity. "Musk love," on the other hand, may be. It seems totally irrational sometimes.