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I think there are 3 main reasons for it. 1 - It's a fantastic phone. 2 - The Apple faithful already have their 4 and 4Ss. 3 - Ship-jumpers: Apple is pissing a
by Nerdfest 14y ago
I think there are 3 main reasons for it.
1 - It's a fantastic phone.
2 - The Apple faithful already have their 4 and 4Ss.
3 - Ship-jumpers: Apple is pissing a lot of people off.
- binarycrusader 14y agoIt's a fantastic phone; unless you care about the odd blue tinge that the display has (seriously, the way it renders flesh tones put me off). The HTC One X has a better display, but otherwise, the Galaxy SIII seems to be a better phone.
- powerslave12r 14y agoNot to mention there are multiple great phones to choose from. Galaxy Nexus and SIII and the ton of S2 variants.
- majorapps 14y agoSamsung is not a fantastic phone - its a company that produces fantastic phones.
- rimantas 14y agoI agree with the first two points, but you may be greatly overestimating 3.
- veidr 14y agoIt's not just developers. A lot of users really hate Apple's rules and overbearing behavior. Retroactively disabling apps like Airfoil speakers, not allowing routine apps like wi-fi signal strength checkers, not allowing porn, not allowing installing apps outside of the app store... shit like that pisses off warehouse workers and preschool teachers I know. It's not just the bogus patent suits and insane restrictions on developers that make people dislike Apple. Developers don't like that shit, but are also in a way more inclined to pragmatically overlook it. Real users are often less forgiving.
- taligent 14y agoFirstly, I don't know which preschool teachers you know but I can't imagine many of them caring about a WiFi signal strength checker (it is already built in), porn (iPhone websites already exist and you can put your own videos on the device) or installing apps from outside the app store. Secondly, you seem to be ignorant of the Cydia App Store where there is a large number of paid apps for the more power users.
- nilliams 14y agoYep, pissing off the odd developer is not going to eat into Apple's handset sales particularly.
- SquareWheel 14y agoI'm not so sure, after all this lawsuit nonsense I've vowed to not buy another Apple product. I can't in good faith support a company that wants to hurt innovation.
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- taligent 14y agoInteresting to know what phone you will chose. Can't be Samsung, HTC or Google since all three are under investigation for anti-competitive behaviour in abusing their FRAND obligations. And as we know common standards are what foster innovation. Can't be Microsoft since it has a long, questionable history. Meego, Symbian ?
- Gigablah 14y agoCommon standards? Apple?
- SquareWheel 14y agoWho said I was going to buy a phone? I've bought three iPods from Apple in the past as I considered them quality products. I certainly won't be doing that again.
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- matwood 14y agoI think you could be seeing a lot of 3a/3b with 3b being that Andriod JB is finally a damn good OS imho. I have been in Apples camp for a long time simply because I thought they had the best device OS combo out there. Honestly, I'm surprised they were able to stay the best combo for as long as they have. I love competition and can't wait to see what Apple comes up with next.
- baddox 14y agoDon't forget all the dirt cheap Samsung phones that get thrown in with service contracts for free or next to free. Also, don't forget that Apple is still dominating in the profit arena. Apple just reported 8.8 billion USD profits for this quarter, while Samsung reported 5.9 billion USD profits.
- hkmurakami 14y ago>Also, don't forget that Apple is still dominating in the profit arena. Here's a great graphic to illustrate this point (2nd chart) [1] [1]: http://www.asymco.com/2012/05/03/the-phone-market-in-2012-a-tale-of-two-disruptions/ http://www.asymco.com/2012/05/03/the-phone-market-in-2012-a-...
- neya 14y agoI see you've been down-voted or no reason. This is one huge problem with Hacker News. Fan-boys will down-vote you for no reason, when you come up with stuff that proves them wrong. Thanks for the link, heads up!
- SudarshanP 14y agoIf you a shareholder, that graph is music to your ears. If you are a consumer, that graph may be nice or not depending on how rich you are. If you are the kind that prides yourself in owning expensive stuff, the iDevices definitely help with that. If you are driven by aesthetics, it may be adequate value for money. If you prefer freedom the Androids set you free. Is it not awesome that Apple sets a high bar for aesthetics and the competition commoditizes the market. We all win as a consequence.
- nl 14y agoThat chart is nearly 6 months old, and the market is changing so rapidly it is no longer true. Also, if people actually read the whole analysis attached to it, they would see how positive it is about Samsung, not just Apple. To quote: The new market disruption is evidenced by the shift of fortunes to Apple and Samsung and away from every other device maker. Additionally, Samsung is now recording record profits, mostly on the back of rapidly increasing sales of profitable phones. Samsung Electronics Co. said Friday its net profit swelled to 5.2 trillion won ($4.5 billion) in the April-June quarter, a 48 percent jump from a year earlier. [snip] In the second quarter, Samsung's mobile division, which makes smartphones, personal computers and network equipment, contributed 63 percent of Samsung's entire operating profit by generating 4.2 trillion won profit.[1] It's true that Samsung's entire phone division doesn't have the high margins Apple does (I've heard ~25% for Samsung vs 35% for Apple), but Samsung sells a lot of low-margin phones, which bring in a lot of revenue even if the profit rate isn't as high. [1] http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jUVFPSfGFphrumC2lxX_CrNdvGmQ?docId=cae3c210fe594d31830673646f9437e5 http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jUVFPSfGFp...
- neya 14y agoWell said, in a nutshell. And I agree with 3, totally.
- dan1234 14y ago4 - Samsung are taking market share from other Android vendors as well as Apple. 5 - Samsung have many more models than Apple most of which are much cheaper and available on contract a minimal cost to the end user.
- z92 14y ago6 - Most people who want to buy an iPhone are waiting for the upcoming iPhone 5. Sales generally diminishes before a big release and crosses all bounds to more than cover the past lag within a month of release.
- gbog 14y ago7 - Apple domination in smartphone segment is ending.
- atirip 14y agoSo what exactly makes you happy that from now one South Korean company dominates in smartphone segment? Are South Korean companies and their leaders somewhat better, more ethical, more customer friendly than American or European counterparts. Why you all root for Samsung?
- Tichy 14y agoI just root for Android, or rather, for a world that is not dominated by an Apple dictatorship.
- 2muchcoffeeman 14y agohttp://www.asymco.com/2012/03/07/the-unrelenting-trends-in-the-us-smartphone-market/ http://www.asymco.com/2012/03/07/the-unrelenting-trends-in-t... Android beat iOS is market share a long time ago. Over all I think Android phones out sell iPhones 2:1.
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- spaghetti 14y agoJust want to reiterate number three. The Apple app review process is seriously dropping the ball for me right now. So much so that I've learned the basics of Android development and ported my core app while waiting for the iOS equivalent to be reviewed. Only thing remaining is to acquire an Android test device, test and submit to Google Play.
- taligent 14y agoWell maybe you should wait until you've actually gone through the testing process before commenting. As someone who has experience in having to get apps to run on almost all Android phones it is a very painful experience. Not only do you have the fragmentation between Android versions but there are OEM specific bugs you need to work around. Then comes the fun part of having to support the wide variety of phones. Trust me you'll be quickly missing the stability and simplicity of iOS development.
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- sjk413 14y agoI've been developing in android for about a year and have started developing for iphones a few months ago, I'm new to objective-c, and have to say it's probably my least favourite oop of the few I know. The xcode interface is fantastic for first time app creators that are interested in creating some very standard apps, if you're wanting to break out of the norm though, I find xcode quite suffocating. Sure Android does have the headache of designing for multiple devices, but once you get your head writing your layout files manually it's actually pretty straight forward. I've not submitted an app for publishing on iOS yet, but I'm not looking forward to it. even sharing a dev app with buddies is a nightmare using Apples provisioning profile mess. The iPhone simulator does seem better than its Android counterpart (due to the lack of customization available). Also, how will iPhone apps appear on the iPhone 5 which is likely to have a bigger display? There is nothing in xcode to deal with fitting to multiple device resolutions.
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- ToesByNoon 14y agoMaybe in the neckbeard demographic, but I see more people switching away from Android and Blackberry than I do giving up iPhones.