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I'm slowly, very slowly, realizing this and that my objections to this are quite literally pissing into the wind to the wrong crowd. Begging and pleading for p

I'm slowly, very slowly, realizing this and that my objections to this are quite literally pissing into the wind to the wrong crowd. Begging and pleading for people to make tech that doesn't torture and depress the average user seems to just fall upon deaf ears, because all that ever mattered to them was the money.

musicale 2y ago
> Begging and pleading for people to make tech that doesn't torture and depress the average user seems to just fall upon deaf ears, because all that ever mattered to them was the money. I think there are some people on HN who care about other things than money. I've seen a number of references here to encrapification and the rot economy, noting that chasing unlimited growth seems to lead to harmful, anti-social technology businesses.
- firstlunchables 2y ago
  Enshittification.
- immibis 2y ago
  They often get flagged, though.
yoyohello13 2y ago
I hear you. I come here because there are often interesting articles about new tech coming out. But reading the comments around here really depresses me sometimes. This is the last bit of social media I consume these days, but it’s probably best for my mental health to stop HN too.
forgotoldacc 2y ago
HN can be annoying at times, but there are still more informed "rebels" here than most places. And they're not outright censored so quickly. Most corners of the internet are either nonstop corporate worship, or wanting everyone to abandon everything and live in a hut in the woods. It's not perfect here, but there are people who present well-reasoned opinions and will peacefully engage with opinions they disagree with. I'm personally for tech helping humans but against the hellscape of trillion dollar corps controlling the fate of humanity and monitoring our every movement, and I don't feel out of place saying that here. There's always someone willing to comment and slap down corporate BS and they're usually voted somewhat highly.
watwut 2y ago
Ok, yeah, but PhD is super exploitative. You work a lot oftentimes with bonkers expectations of you doing nothing but working. You earn super little. You spend a lot of time doing simple work. And, it is pyramid where you are never sure you will be able to secure a postdoc, second one or position. Aaand, you are forced to move and take position where it is - relocate to a place that has position open whether you like the place or not. That puts strain on the partner - who is expected to move where you go, while you don't have time for kids and while you don't even earn much.
LunaSea 2y ago
Users expecting everything to be free is part of the story as well. Online newspapers having to rely on ads is a good example of it.

musicale 2y ago

> Begging and pleading for people to make tech that doesn't torture and depress the average user seems to just fall upon deaf ears, because all that ever mattered to them was the money. I think there are some people on HN who care about other things than money. I've seen a number of references here to encrapification and the rot economy, noting that chasing unlimited growth seems to lead to harmful, anti-social technology businesses.

firstlunchables 2y ago
Enshittification.
immibis 2y ago
They often get flagged, though.

yoyohello13 2y ago

I hear you. I come here because there are often interesting articles about new tech coming out. But reading the comments around here really depresses me sometimes. This is the last bit of social media I consume these days, but it’s probably best for my mental health to stop HN too.

forgotoldacc 2y ago

HN can be annoying at times, but there are still more informed "rebels" here than most places. And they're not outright censored so quickly. Most corners of the internet are either nonstop corporate worship, or wanting everyone to abandon everything and live in a hut in the woods. It's not perfect here, but there are people who present well-reasoned opinions and will peacefully engage with opinions they disagree with. I'm personally for tech helping humans but against the hellscape of trillion dollar corps controlling the fate of humanity and monitoring our every movement, and I don't feel out of place saying that here. There's always someone willing to comment and slap down corporate BS and they're usually voted somewhat highly.

watwut 2y ago

Ok, yeah, but PhD is super exploitative. You work a lot oftentimes with bonkers expectations of you doing nothing but working. You earn super little. You spend a lot of time doing simple work. And, it is pyramid where you are never sure you will be able to secure a postdoc, second one or position. Aaand, you are forced to move and take position where it is - relocate to a place that has position open whether you like the place or not. That puts strain on the partner - who is expected to move where you go, while you don't have time for kids and while you don't even earn much.

LunaSea 2y ago

Users expecting everything to be free is part of the story as well. Online newspapers having to rely on ads is a good example of it.