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I don't get it as well, though I think the situation is classical regulatory capture. In other words, the wrong regulation. I like the style the Czech/German s

I don't get it as well, though I think the situation is classical regulatory capture. In other words, the wrong regulation. I like the style the Czech/German system is doing healthcare. It is public but kinda private. You pay to the government, but you decide where to go so the hospitals/doctors compete for your money. It is very different than the centrally planned Danish or English based where there's basically some person in top that decides everything.

anthonyskipper 2y ago
It has NOTHING to do with regulatory capture. The US is polarized with the republicans not wanting any socialized health care because they don't want to care for people not like them. You can't organize and correctly run a health care systems when half you politicians actively sabotage and burn it down.
- Supermancho 2y ago
  > not wanting any socialized health care because they don't want to care for people not like them because they don't want to care for people not like them. Categorically, older individuals tend to vote more conservative and more republican. This doesn't make sense to me at all. What makes more sense is that they argue against the socialization of any industry that funds their campaigns. Democrats seem to take a more middle ground. ie Obamacare socialized low cost solutions and pushed costs uphill toward people who need more expensive care.
- DontchaKnowit 2y ago
  Do you really think politicians are motivated by "not wanting to care for people not like them" That's such an insane assumption to make.
  - hn_acc1 2y ago
    Do you live in the US? There were supporters of a certain party complaining that the president wasn't hurting the right people fast enough..
    - DontchaKnowit 2y ago
      That is your perception, I'd bet if you asked those people they would disagree with your synopsis
z2 2y ago
And also where the industry that's supposed to be regulated is reverse-dominating the regulatory agencies. Maybe par for the course in other industries too, but they have powerful lobbying groups like American Hospital Association.
throw9394848 2y ago
I am Czech. I do not have dentist or GP, they are overloaded, none are taking new patients! I have to pay private treatments out of my own pocket! Alternative is to spend like 30 hours calling and calling, and then wait 3 months for an appointment at dentist! I am forced to pay about 500 euro on mandatory public health insurance (tax) every month!
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  The same is true in my city in the US, though. My dermatologist schedules 6+ months out for new patients; cardiac/neuro is 3-9 months depending on the urgency. Most of the primary care practitioners in the area are full up; I see regular posts on the local subreddit looking for anyone, anyone taking someone.
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anthonyskipper 2y ago

It has NOTHING to do with regulatory capture. The US is polarized with the republicans not wanting any socialized health care because they don't want to care for people not like them. You can't organize and correctly run a health care systems when half you politicians actively sabotage and burn it down.

Supermancho 2y ago
> not wanting any socialized health care because they don't want to care for people not like them because they don't want to care for people not like them. Categorically, older individuals tend to vote more conservative and more republican. This doesn't make sense to me at all. What makes more sense is that they argue against the socialization of any industry that funds their campaigns. Democrats seem to take a more middle ground. ie Obamacare socialized low cost solutions and pushed costs uphill toward people who need more expensive care.
DontchaKnowit 2y ago
Do you really think politicians are motivated by "not wanting to care for people not like them" That's such an insane assumption to make.
- hn_acc1 2y ago
  Do you live in the US? There were supporters of a certain party complaining that the president wasn't hurting the right people fast enough..
  - DontchaKnowit 2y ago
    That is your perception, I'd bet if you asked those people they would disagree with your synopsis

z2 2y ago

And also where the industry that's supposed to be regulated is reverse-dominating the regulatory agencies. Maybe par for the course in other industries too, but they have powerful lobbying groups like American Hospital Association.

throw9394848 2y ago

I am Czech. I do not have dentist or GP, they are overloaded, none are taking new patients! I have to pay private treatments out of my own pocket! Alternative is to spend like 30 hours calling and calling, and then wait 3 months for an appointment at dentist! I am forced to pay about 500 euro on mandatory public health insurance (tax) every month!

ceejayoz 2y ago
The same is true in my city in the US, though. My dermatologist schedules 6+ months out for new patients; cardiac/neuro is 3-9 months depending on the urgency. Most of the primary care practitioners in the area are full up; I see regular posts on the local subreddit looking for anyone, anyone taking someone.
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