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Easy and obvious cases of inefficiency and lack of care will be easy to spot and remove but I fear these many examples will be made an example of and justify th

Easy and obvious cases of inefficiency and lack of care will be easy to spot and remove but I fear these many examples will be made an example of and justify the tearing down of Chesterton fences and irreplaceable Good Things. It's also possible the US is entering it's own "Austerity". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austerity https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austerity

maxerickson 2y ago
There's literally lots of people excited to suffer to make number go down.
- throw0101d 2y ago
  > There's literally lots of people excited to suffer to make number go down. People are excited for other people to suffer: > A federal prison here in Florida’s rural Panhandle lost much of its roof and fence during Hurricane Michael in October, forcing hundreds of inmates to relocate to a facility in Yazoo City, Miss., more than 400 miles away. > Since then, corrections officers have had to commute there to work, a seven-hour drive, for two-week stints. As of this week, thanks to the partial federal government shutdown, they will be doing it without pay — no paychecks and no reimbursement for gas, meals and laundry, expenses that can run hundreds of dollars per trip. […] > The shutdown on top of the hurricane has caused Ms. Minton to rethink a lot of things. > “I voted for him, and he’s the one who’s doing this,” she said of Mr. Trump. “I thought he was going to do good things. He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.” * https://archive.is/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/07/us/florida-government-shutdown-marianna.html https://archive.is/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/07/us/flo...
  - matwood 2y ago
    Getting poor people to fight amongst themselves and ignore the huge and growing wealth inequality is a common strategy.
throw0101d 2y ago
> It's possible the US is entering it's own "Austerity". Which has generally been a bad idea: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austerity:_The_History_of_a_Dangerous_Idea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austerity:_The_History_of_a_Da...
- ohnoitsahuman 2y ago
  Austerity is horrible for those that don't produce goods and services that are desired. For those that do, it's fine.
  - throw0101d 2y ago
    > Austerity is horrible for those that don't produce goods and services that are desired. Even the IMF, who pushed for austerity * https://www.brettonwoodsproject.org/2009/07/art-564828/ https://www.brettonwoodsproject.org/2009/07/art-564828/ admitted that it can kill growth: > This paper investigates the relation between growth forecast errors and planned fiscal consolidation during the crisis. We find that, in advanced economies, stronger planned fiscal consolidation has been associated with lower growth than expected, with the relation being particularly strong, both statistically and economically, early in the crisis. A natural interpretation is that fiscal multipliers were substantially higher than implicitly assumed by forecasters. The weaker relation in more recent years may reflect in part learning by forecasters and in part smaller multipliers than in the early years of the crisis. * https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WP/Issues/2016/12/31/Growth-Forecast-Errors-and-Fiscal-Multipliers-40200 https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WP/Issues/2016/12/31/Gro... * https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aer.103.3.117 https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aer.103.3.117 You'd think they'd learn their lesson, but nope: post-COVID they were pushing austerity again.

maxerickson 2y ago

There's literally lots of people excited to suffer to make number go down.

throw0101d 2y ago
> There's literally lots of people excited to suffer to make number go down. People are excited for other people to suffer: > A federal prison here in Florida’s rural Panhandle lost much of its roof and fence during Hurricane Michael in October, forcing hundreds of inmates to relocate to a facility in Yazoo City, Miss., more than 400 miles away. > Since then, corrections officers have had to commute there to work, a seven-hour drive, for two-week stints. As of this week, thanks to the partial federal government shutdown, they will be doing it without pay — no paychecks and no reimbursement for gas, meals and laundry, expenses that can run hundreds of dollars per trip. […] > The shutdown on top of the hurricane has caused Ms. Minton to rethink a lot of things. > “I voted for him, and he’s the one who’s doing this,” she said of Mr. Trump. “I thought he was going to do good things. He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting.” * https://archive.is/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/07/us/florida-government-shutdown-marianna.html https://archive.is/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/07/us/flo...
- matwood 2y ago
  Getting poor people to fight amongst themselves and ignore the huge and growing wealth inequality is a common strategy.

throw0101d 2y ago

> It's possible the US is entering it's own "Austerity". Which has generally been a bad idea: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austerity:_The_History_of_a_Dangerous_Idea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austerity:_The_History_of_a_Da...

ohnoitsahuman 2y ago
Austerity is horrible for those that don't produce goods and services that are desired. For those that do, it's fine.
- throw0101d 2y ago
  > Austerity is horrible for those that don't produce goods and services that are desired. Even the IMF, who pushed for austerity * https://www.brettonwoodsproject.org/2009/07/art-564828/ https://www.brettonwoodsproject.org/2009/07/art-564828/ admitted that it can kill growth: > This paper investigates the relation between growth forecast errors and planned fiscal consolidation during the crisis. We find that, in advanced economies, stronger planned fiscal consolidation has been associated with lower growth than expected, with the relation being particularly strong, both statistically and economically, early in the crisis. A natural interpretation is that fiscal multipliers were substantially higher than implicitly assumed by forecasters. The weaker relation in more recent years may reflect in part learning by forecasters and in part smaller multipliers than in the early years of the crisis. * https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WP/Issues/2016/12/31/Growth-Forecast-Errors-and-Fiscal-Multipliers-40200 https://www.imf.org/en/Publications/WP/Issues/2016/12/31/Gro... * https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aer.103.3.117 https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aer.103.3.117 You'd think they'd learn their lesson, but nope: post-COVID they were pushing austerity again.