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> Tech always had overseas sweatshops. India, Latin America, Eastern Europe come to mind But back then, the Engineering Manager or Product Manager would remain
by alephnerd 2y ago
> Tech always had overseas sweatshops. India, Latin America, Eastern Europe come to mind
But back then, the Engineering Manager or Product Manager would remain in the US.
Now even Engineering and Product leadership is being outsourced as well, which makes it easier to enforce standards.
- lazide 2y agoHow does it make it easier to enforce standards when everyone involved is able to collude easier?
- kasey_junk 2y agoThat was not my experience, having worked through 2 other bust cycles, everyone said the same things through those as well.
- alephnerd 2y agoAs I mentioned in my comment, during previous boom-bust cycle, the leadership that had P/L responsibilities (Engineering Leadership, Group/Directors PM) would remain in the US. But after the COVID layoffs happened, impacted H1B, EB1/2, and O1 visa holders returned to their home countries, and then got rehired by the same employers but for $60k-130k TC (depending on country). A lot of mid-late career product and engineering leadership was laid of in 2020-21, and those guys have now founded the new generation of foreign offices.