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Tough question and no easy answer. From your comment I would guess you are around 25, give or take a decade. Look at history and read about the union fights a

by jmclnx 2y ago

Tough question and no easy answer. From your comment I would guess you are around 25, give or take a decade. Look at history and read about the union fights around 1900, to me that is the place were young people are now. You will need to fight and more fight for your life.

ryandrake 2y ago
Young people also face an enormous propaganda machine constantly telling them unions are bad, they just take your dues, you'll never make more money negotiating together, rugged individuality is the religion, and Real Men Do Everything On Their Own. So union membership continues to shrink. Most people under 30 are probably not old enough to have ever even seen a powerful union that delivers results for its members, let alone have the chance to join one without being hosed down with anti-union propaganda. Amazon alone "deployed a staggering amount of anti-union propaganda, bombarding workers with flyers, mailers, Instagram ads, Facebook posts, brochures, videos, phone calls, posters, mandatory meetings, a website, text messages, and notifications" on their internal workplace app[1]. While they soak up all the excess value workers produce and hand it over to themselves and shareholders. The deck is totally stacked against the next generations. I feel pretty grim for my kid's future to be honest. 1: https://www.vice.com/en/article/amazon-is-bombarding-workers-with-union-busting-messages/ https://www.vice.com/en/article/amazon-is-bombarding-workers...
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > Young people also face an enormous propaganda machine constantly telling them I've had folks in my age group (30s) complain about the travails of our generation over aprés, after a day of skiing, and in advance of their next international travels. Part of the propaganda is the fetishisation of victimhood.
  - Gud 2y ago
    That is a very small portion of your generation, whatever generation. Most people don’t have enough money for that lifestyle.
    - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
      > Most people don’t have enough money for that lifestyle Agreed. My point is most people in America has a lot to be thankful for, and yet everything in social media seems programmed to drive the opposite. (Being thankful doesn't mean one stops fighting for more.)
      - ryandrake 2y ago
        > But you don't have to make yourself miserable for not being a billionaire. I don't think that's what the OP Redditor is complaining about. He's complaining that as a 30+ year old, despite his best efforts, he can't seem to get any kind of footing as a self-sufficient adult, and can't even afford to live on his own. This is a pretty common complaint for young people today, and it's grounded in reality. I don't think this is anything like someone complaining that they're not a billionaire. Heck, I'm almost 50, and I frequently feel that constant low-burn fear that if it weren't for my fairly decent job, my family and I would be in huge trouble financially, and un-recoverably so. I'm thankful, but also fully aware of how precariously I am walking the tightrope. There's no safety net or grace period in the USA anymore. Once you're down, you're out.

by jmclnx 2y ago

ryandrake 2y ago

Young people also face an enormous propaganda machine constantly telling them unions are bad, they just take your dues, you'll never make more money negotiating together, rugged individuality is the religion, and Real Men Do Everything On Their Own. So union membership continues to shrink. Most people under 30 are probably not old enough to have ever even seen a powerful union that delivers results for its members, let alone have the chance to join one without being hosed down with anti-union propaganda. Amazon alone "deployed a staggering amount of anti-union propaganda, bombarding workers with flyers, mailers, Instagram ads, Facebook posts, brochures, videos, phone calls, posters, mandatory meetings, a website, text messages, and notifications" on their internal workplace app[1]. While they soak up all the excess value workers produce and hand it over to themselves and shareholders. The deck is totally stacked against the next generations. I feel pretty grim for my kid's future to be honest. 1: https://www.vice.com/en/article/amazon-is-bombarding-workers-with-union-busting-messages/ https://www.vice.com/en/article/amazon-is-bombarding-workers...

JumpCrisscross 2y ago
> Young people also face an enormous propaganda machine constantly telling them I've had folks in my age group (30s) complain about the travails of our generation over aprés, after a day of skiing, and in advance of their next international travels. Part of the propaganda is the fetishisation of victimhood.
- Gud 2y ago
  That is a very small portion of your generation, whatever generation. Most people don’t have enough money for that lifestyle.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > Most people don’t have enough money for that lifestyle Agreed. My point is most people in America has a lot to be thankful for, and yet everything in social media seems programmed to drive the opposite. (Being thankful doesn't mean one stops fighting for more.)
    - ryandrake 2y ago
      > But you don't have to make yourself miserable for not being a billionaire. I don't think that's what the OP Redditor is complaining about. He's complaining that as a 30+ year old, despite his best efforts, he can't seem to get any kind of footing as a self-sufficient adult, and can't even afford to live on his own. This is a pretty common complaint for young people today, and it's grounded in reality. I don't think this is anything like someone complaining that they're not a billionaire. Heck, I'm almost 50, and I frequently feel that constant low-burn fear that if it weren't for my fairly decent job, my family and I would be in huge trouble financially, and un-recoverably so. I'm thankful, but also fully aware of how precariously I am walking the tightrope. There's no safety net or grace period in the USA anymore. Once you're down, you're out.