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There is a higher chance of being healthy when you are thin vs being fat. It’s not 100% but definitely worthwhile

lm28469 2y ago
Sure but if you didn't care about putting the work while being fat why would you care about putting the work now that you're skinny, especially now that you're skinny while providing 0 effort. The mindset is the same, maybe even worse because it perpetuate the idea that modern medicine will fix you up no matter how much you fuck up
- bryanlarsen 2y ago
  Ozempic side effects are nasty. It's hardly "0 effort".
  - lm28469 2y ago
    Obesity side effects are nasty as fuck too, yet here we are.
- Analemma_ 2y ago
  Because a bunch of activities which help you remain healthy are easier when you're skinny. Jogging, hiking, and bouldering are all things I enjoy, but are very hard on my joints because I'm overweight: I'm looking forward to doing them more after I lose weight with GLP-1s, which might help prevent a rebound.
  - lm28469 2y ago
    Swimming and biking, especially indoor, are super easy on the body and unless you're fat enough to qualify for the 1930s world biggest man on earth it should be doable.
    - Analemma_ 2y ago
      Sure, but I don't like those: I like running, hiking, and bouldering. I don't subscribe to an ethical system where it's better to do things you hate just for the sake of avoiding a GLP-1 agonist; I'd rather take the GLP-1 agonist and do the things I like.
- SpicyLemonZest 2y ago
  Because it's a lot less work! I still have to schedule my workouts and find time to make healthy meals, but I no longer have to schedule my meals and social calendar around when I get too hungry to function.
low_tech_love 2y ago
I’m going to your comment as an example in my statistics class about correlation vs causality! Thanks!
- rqtwteye 2y ago
  You are welcome!
- LordDragonfang 2y ago
  Correlation is not automatically causation, but it does imply a link. That is why you have to have to look into the many, many studies which have given evidence for a causative link. https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/weight-management/adult-overweight-obesity/health-risks https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/weight-manageme... Note that the list of diseases in that article includes every single one of the leading non-injury causes of death: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db355.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db355.htm (partially excluding cancer, and excluding flu, which does have a higher mortality among obese patients)
  - low_tech_love 2y ago
    But how do we deal with the fact that, up until recently, to only consistent way to lose weight and defeat obesity was to actually acquire healthier habits (in terms of e.g. food and physical activity)? Can we assume that taking a shortcut and becoming thinner by taking medicine will also lead to these benefits?
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Sure but if you didn't care about putting the work while being fat why would you care about putting the work now that you're skinny, especially now that you're skinny while providing 0 effort. The mindset is the same, maybe even worse because it perpetuate the idea that modern medicine will fix you up no matter how much you fuck up

bryanlarsen 2y ago
Ozempic side effects are nasty. It's hardly "0 effort".
- lm28469 2y ago
  Obesity side effects are nasty as fuck too, yet here we are.
Analemma_ 2y ago
Because a bunch of activities which help you remain healthy are easier when you're skinny. Jogging, hiking, and bouldering are all things I enjoy, but are very hard on my joints because I'm overweight: I'm looking forward to doing them more after I lose weight with GLP-1s, which might help prevent a rebound.
- lm28469 2y ago
  Swimming and biking, especially indoor, are super easy on the body and unless you're fat enough to qualify for the 1930s world biggest man on earth it should be doable.
  - Analemma_ 2y ago
    Sure, but I don't like those: I like running, hiking, and bouldering. I don't subscribe to an ethical system where it's better to do things you hate just for the sake of avoiding a GLP-1 agonist; I'd rather take the GLP-1 agonist and do the things I like.
SpicyLemonZest 2y ago
Because it's a lot less work! I still have to schedule my workouts and find time to make healthy meals, but I no longer have to schedule my meals and social calendar around when I get too hungry to function.

low_tech_love 2y ago

I’m going to your comment as an example in my statistics class about correlation vs causality! Thanks!

rqtwteye 2y ago
You are welcome!
LordDragonfang 2y ago
Correlation is not automatically causation, but it does imply a link. That is why you have to have to look into the many, many studies which have given evidence for a causative link. https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/weight-management/adult-overweight-obesity/health-risks https://www.niddk.nih.gov/health-information/weight-manageme... Note that the list of diseases in that article includes every single one of the leading non-injury causes of death: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db355.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db355.htm (partially excluding cancer, and excluding flu, which does have a higher mortality among obese patients)
- low_tech_love 2y ago
  But how do we deal with the fact that, up until recently, to only consistent way to lose weight and defeat obesity was to actually acquire healthier habits (in terms of e.g. food and physical activity)? Can we assume that taking a shortcut and becoming thinner by taking medicine will also lead to these benefits?

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