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Skirting knife edges of legal is not illegal. Perhaps you are concerned about immoral, do you think it's immoral to review financial records? I used an audit

Skirting knife edges of legal is not illegal. Perhaps you are concerned about immoral, do you think it's immoral to review financial records? I used an audit as an example. The agencies are acting as if their records cannot be reviewed unless they themselves vet they auditor which is suspicious given they are part of the executive branch. By your logic, ex-cons are not employable because companies would not employ them unless they have intentions of using their skills.

relistan 2y ago
Yes, if anyone hired a 19 year old ex-con into this role digging through the personal data of government employees... I would say it's pretty clear what their intention is. Furthermore there are established processes chartered by Congress for auditing and reviewing secure materials held by government agencies. Those require background checks, vetting, and proper processes. They don't involve random people hired a couple of weeks ago showing up and digging into whatever they feel like looking at.
- psychlops 2y ago
  They aren't "digging", they are looking for fraud and savings. They've have been vetted by elected officials, just not the ones that seem to have something to hide. I really don't think you know what their "intentions" are. I don't think this conversation will go much further, please don't let me stand in the way of your outrage.
  - relistan 2y ago
    Ah yes, you don't like how things turned out and so you resort to characterizing me as outraged as though I'm somehow less capable of being logical than your are. Feel free to not engage with my comments in future. I'd much prefer that.
  - trinsic2 2y ago
    You don't know what they are doing other than what the said they are doing. Just because someone say's something about their motives, doesn't make it true. It sounds more like you have a position that you want to have promoted "auditing records for corruption reasons" (which is noble btw) and hoping the DOGE organization's behavior is lining up to that position. I'd be careful of this as it sounds more like cognitive bias.
    - psychlops 2y ago
      This is true except for me wanting to promote anything. I have positions that I take and like to discuss with others, nothing more. I do hope it turns out to be an audit (and it certainly seems that way), but watch it cautiously for any deviation.

relistan 2y ago

Yes, if anyone hired a 19 year old ex-con into this role digging through the personal data of government employees... I would say it's pretty clear what their intention is. Furthermore there are established processes chartered by Congress for auditing and reviewing secure materials held by government agencies. Those require background checks, vetting, and proper processes. They don't involve random people hired a couple of weeks ago showing up and digging into whatever they feel like looking at.

psychlops 2y ago
They aren't "digging", they are looking for fraud and savings. They've have been vetted by elected officials, just not the ones that seem to have something to hide. I really don't think you know what their "intentions" are. I don't think this conversation will go much further, please don't let me stand in the way of your outrage.
- relistan 2y ago
  Ah yes, you don't like how things turned out and so you resort to characterizing me as outraged as though I'm somehow less capable of being logical than your are. Feel free to not engage with my comments in future. I'd much prefer that.
- trinsic2 2y ago
  You don't know what they are doing other than what the said they are doing. Just because someone say's something about their motives, doesn't make it true. It sounds more like you have a position that you want to have promoted "auditing records for corruption reasons" (which is noble btw) and hoping the DOGE organization's behavior is lining up to that position. I'd be careful of this as it sounds more like cognitive bias.
  - psychlops 2y ago
    This is true except for me wanting to promote anything. I have positions that I take and like to discuss with others, nothing more. I do hope it turns out to be an audit (and it certainly seems that way), but watch it cautiously for any deviation.