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> that intelligence agencies like to recruit young people active in the cyber criminal scene Just linking this back to the story, am I mistaken in saying that
by h0l0cube 2y ago
> that intelligence agencies like to recruit young people active in the cyber criminal scene
Just linking this back to the story, am I mistaken in saying that DOGE is not an intelligence agency? (It certainly is a great position to exfiltrate information however.)
- gadders 2y agoI think the implication is that if the person concerned (dox-ed again by Krebs) would pass an intelligence agency review, they should be OK for fraud investigation.
- WD-42 2y agoWhy? They aren’t the same thing, not even remotely close skill set. Also why do people keep calling this doxxing. These are public employees.
- gadders 2y ago>>why do people keep calling this doxxing. Because they are getting death threats, and that is only reason their names were made public.
- WD-42 2y agothat doesn’t mean they are being doxxed. That just means their identities are known, just like any other public figure that receives death threats.
- gadders 2y agoWired looked up their details and made them public.
- WD-42 2y agoI’m replying to yet another poster with nothing technical in their comment history, just political crap. When did HN become infested by brain rot. Post probably should have been flagged after all.
- gadders 2y agoI'm pro Trump, you're anti. Neither of us want to see this rage bait.
- WD-42 2y agoYour entire submission history is nothing but political rage bait. I swear people should be able to pass the “hello world” programming test before being able to post here. This site is going down the drain
- gadders 2y agoMy non-partisan hand across the political divide was rebuffed. I can see you only find one side capable of rage-bait. Opposing opinions must be very troubling for you.
- arrowsmith 2y agoIt's not even an agency.
- matt-attack 2y agoUm it is. And it was started by Obama. He
- relistan 2y agoThe perfect place to exfiltrate information and absolutely no need for this level of security skills there unless they intended to break into government systems they were not given access to by e.g. the courts.
- psychlops 2y agoTheir stated purpose is "to reduce wasteful and fraudulent federal spending". Organizations that have waste and fraudulent spending will not "give" access and will throw every obstruction in the way.
- relistan 2y agoJustify it however you like, but there is no course in which hacking the system is legal
- psychlops 2y agoI'm not justifying anything. Every large organization gets audited and is required to allow outsiders in to review data. It's quite legal, necessary in fact. Nobody likes it. They don't call it "hacking".
- relistan 2y agoIf you read my original comment, it was about there not being a need for such security skills unless you have intentions to access the data regardless of what is put in your path. If you are denied access by the courts but you access it anyway, you are hacking. They also have no charter to audit, are not authorized by Congress, and are therefore already skirting the very knife edge of what is legal.
- psychlops 2y agoSkirting knife edges of legal is not illegal. Perhaps you are concerned about immoral, do you think it's immoral to review financial records? I used an audit as an example. The agencies are acting as if their records cannot be reviewed unless they themselves vet they auditor which is suspicious given they are part of the executive branch. By your logic, ex-cons are not employable because companies would not employ them unless they have intentions of using their skills.
- jmcgough 2y agoDOGE is a renamed Obama-era agency called the US Digital Service. This group basically tackles IT needs for different departments, which is how Elon is able to weasel his way into any department he decides to target.
- dboreham 2y agoFirst time I've seen this, and very interesting. I was aware of the USDS but not the DOGE connection. Presumably all the former employees were fired as the alien took over the host?
- lbarron6868 2y agoYeah it was started after the Obamacare website debacle years ago. The intention was to have a group of IT professionals who could shuttle from various departments to help with different projects. Pretty innocuous, honestly. It was never intended to be used as a tool to dismantle the federal government.