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I like how you are 100% convinced that this “a mess” and “we can only assume the worst” and that PII is compromised, etc. What actual facts do you have for any

I like how you are 100% convinced that this “a mess” and “we can only assume the worst” and that PII is compromised, etc. What actual facts do you have for anything? I understand why the media is mad, why NGOs, and why liberal politicians are mad, I get why foreign countries are mad. I’m interested in fraud and abuse, regardless of who does it. So if Musk’s team finds it, great, if they get caught committing it and have to deal with that, also great. But right now we know there is something broken. Instead of being mad about that, you are angry about hypotheticals that have not happened. Why is that?

dkjaudyeqooe 2y ago
How does Musk find "fraud and abuse" if he doesn't have access to the whole stack of decision making? It's not up to him to make those decisions, it's up to congress. Musk is just making up bullshit (I'm surprised he didn't say he was rooting out pedophiles) to justify his jihad against the public service.
- genewitch 2y ago
  Lol congress that just had to have the Judiciary tell them they actually have to do their jobs and not let the agencies run roughshod? OK!
WaxProlix 2y ago
If you read the article, you might get some insight into the comments.
- an_guy 2y ago
  > might... So you haven't found any insights regarding this?
Fnoord 2y ago
So, say in a few weeks, a massive fraud gets caught. Musk announces it, releases the documents. Who's to say these crooks didn't manipulate it? Same goes for achives of *.gov but those are public. So we can compare hashes independently from each other. With these private repos, we can't. Originals are getting burned. Hopefully there's solid offsite backups untouched.
- kenjackson 2y ago
  Never thought of that. Any investigation from this group or this data is tainted now. Goodness.
  - matwood 2y ago
    Of course it’s tainted. The whole thing will be ‘trust us.’ The only source of most of what has been claimed to be ‘found’ so far is Musk’s Twitter account. Journalists cross referenced his first claims and found they were BS, so Musk will just get rid of the place people can cross reference. How this is ok with anyone, regardless of how they voted, is beyond me.
metadat 2y ago
For a list of concerns about events of late, please see: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43003791 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43003791 Lots of really good, and as of yet, unanswered questions which shed some light on why/how Musk's claims of "waste" and his method of supposed resolution don't hold up to scrutiny.

dkjaudyeqooe 2y ago

How does Musk find "fraud and abuse" if he doesn't have access to the whole stack of decision making? It's not up to him to make those decisions, it's up to congress. Musk is just making up bullshit (I'm surprised he didn't say he was rooting out pedophiles) to justify his jihad against the public service.

genewitch 2y ago
Lol congress that just had to have the Judiciary tell them they actually have to do their jobs and not let the agencies run roughshod? OK!

WaxProlix 2y ago

If you read the article, you might get some insight into the comments.

an_guy 2y ago
> might... So you haven't found any insights regarding this?

Fnoord 2y ago

So, say in a few weeks, a massive fraud gets caught. Musk announces it, releases the documents. Who's to say these crooks didn't manipulate it? Same goes for achives of *.gov but those are public. So we can compare hashes independently from each other. With these private repos, we can't. Originals are getting burned. Hopefully there's solid offsite backups untouched.

kenjackson 2y ago
Never thought of that. Any investigation from this group or this data is tainted now. Goodness.
- matwood 2y ago
  Of course it’s tainted. The whole thing will be ‘trust us.’ The only source of most of what has been claimed to be ‘found’ so far is Musk’s Twitter account. Journalists cross referenced his first claims and found they were BS, so Musk will just get rid of the place people can cross reference. How this is ok with anyone, regardless of how they voted, is beyond me.

metadat 2y ago

For a list of concerns about events of late, please see: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43003791 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43003791 Lots of really good, and as of yet, unanswered questions which shed some light on why/how Musk's claims of "waste" and his method of supposed resolution don't hold up to scrutiny.